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locopony
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single carb for parallel twins
      #552042 - 03/11/12 07:55 AM

I made a deal yesterday to work with a carb company to develope an intake manifold and single carb for our bikes. He seems to think we can get a better, and more flow than the two CVKs can. We discussed the limitations of the CVKs and why they can never be a high performance carb.
We shall see how it works out.

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B02S4
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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: locopony]
      #552060 - 03/11/12 10:14 AM

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...We discussed the limitations of the CVKs and why they can never be a high performance carb.
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Good luck with your project, although I disagree with the above opinion.


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Ryk
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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: B02S4]
      #552062 - 03/11/12 10:20 AM

Why wouldn't a single CVK work? Like the Tiger s (TR 6,7 s) of old. Only one cylinder fires at a time.

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locopony
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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: Ryk]
      #552071 - 03/11/12 11:03 AM

The limits .....well, that woud be a lengthy and indepth conversation. Basically the vacuum operated slides cause a slow response time. The needle and jett combos even with the pilot jets actually do leave a lot of areas for compromise, not to mention that the slider causes turbulent flow. All making for limitations when trying to maximize out put potential.

Not exactly, the flow limitations would leave ya starving the bike when it comes to performance. We are looking to gain as much flow as possible.

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bigbill
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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: locopony]
      #552076 - 03/11/12 11:36 AM

A single carb can actually get you better performance on the 360° engines. It'll be interesting to see how it works on a 270°.

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roadworthy
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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: bigbill]
      #552085 - 03/11/12 01:35 PM

So what would you run, a 45mm or bigger single carb?

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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: roadworthy]
      #552086 - 03/11/12 02:14 PM

You would probably run something close to what you use with dual carbs, depending on other mods. The main advantage will be a smoother, more constant air flow; as well as not having to sync them.

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locopony
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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: roadworthy]
      #552087 - 03/11/12 02:16 PM

We have a lot to work out yet. How big the ports are, how much vacuum the cylinders pull, how long the intake tubes are going to have to be, what the actual cam duration is, along with other factors. I'm going over to his shop Monday to get some measurements and do some tests.

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The_Dog33
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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: locopony]
      #552101 - 03/11/12 04:21 PM

I always like the single carb bikes better on the old stuff.

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Re: single carb for parallel twins [Re: The_Dog33]
      #552137 - 03/12/12 07:10 AM

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I always like the single carb bikes better on the old stuff.


Yep, me too. Easier to maintain, no synch, and the performance gain from the old double carb was minimal.

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