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moeAdministrator
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: privateer]
      #143667 - 09/05/06 10:10 AM

GA Code courtesy of a web blog.

Actual Georgia Code: House Bill 1193

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bonnyusa
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: privateer]
      #143674 - 09/05/06 10:47 AM

This is probably much ado about nothing. Consider this section in GA's bill:

(b) It may be inferred that the accused intended to use a false or secret compartment if a person knowingly has a false or secret compartment which:
(1) Is concealing a person for an unlawful purpose;
(2) Is concealing a controlled substance in violation of Article 2 of Chapter 13 of this title;
(3) Is concealing other contraband;
(4) Shows evidence of the previous concealment of a person for an unlawful purpose;
(5) Shows evidence of the previous concealment of controlled substances in violation of Article 2 of Chapter 13 of this title; or
(6) Shows evidence of the previous concealment of other contraband.


Sounds like they are targetting human and drug traffickers. Somehow, I doubt that a Freak toolbox will fall into any of those categories...

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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: bonnyusa]
      #143704 - 09/05/06 12:46 PM

OK maybe I'll leave mine clear so they can see the tools inside

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SalMaglie
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: bonnyusa]
      #143775 - 09/05/06 06:02 PM

Quote:

Sounds like they are targetting human and drug traffickers. Somehow, I doubt that a Freak toolbox will fall into any of those categories..




Well it varies from state to state just how the law is written. And in some states, your freak toolbox could get your bike siezed.

Although these laws were written to go after the drug dealers, in some states and counties they can be abused by law enforcement officials so they can pad their budgets. I for one wouldn't trust any law written that would allow for a potential abuse of power. We've all seen speed traps in small towns where it'll drop from 55mph to 35mph in a block, just so the local cop can do some "revenue enhancement". When they can also sieze your vehicle and make some dollars off the sale, I wouldn't put it past them to do just that.


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privateer
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: SalMaglie]
      #143783 - 09/05/06 06:19 PM

That was my point.
A law may be well intended but, if worded wrong,
opens itself to abuse.
Seems the wording in this would make the officers call
FINAL, ON THE SPOT!
Don't matter what you say,
give up your tags and registration.
Oh, here's your temporary tag. See you in court.
Have a nice day and drive safe Sir.
Probably would beat it in court.
BUT! Why should we have to SPEND that kind of money,
lost wages for court dates and so on and so forth?
Not gonna happen?
My behind!!!
Why do you think we are fighting for new laws concerning
impounding of bikes and such?
WORDING! DUH!!!

Now I know we have a few law enforcement
types here.
And I am not saying ALL Police would abuse
something like this.
But I sure would like to hear thier take on this.

Edited by privateer (09/05/06 06:31 PM)


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moeAdministrator
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: ]
      #144293 - 09/07/06 11:46 AM

Our rear axles are hollow. Great spot for some cash or stash...

Just treat it like a tampoony and tie a string to it!

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redbike7
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: privateer]
      #144702 - 09/08/06 02:44 PM

Some attorney is waiting to take this to the US supreme court. Define 'secret compartment'. Under the seat? The console of my F150 has a tray with a 'secret compartment' below it. I can see this being misused for sure, especially if the cop wants to hang one on you, but I bet this ends up in the higher courts-after us peons have suffered.

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bennybmnModerator
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: redbike7]
      #144741 - 09/08/06 04:38 PM

Maybe they are trying to make it easier for cops to find "probably cause" to search for drugs etc.

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Dinqua
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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: bennybmn]
      #144863 - 09/09/06 07:10 AM

I guess every single GoldWing and Vrod rider are now breaking the laws with their false gas tanks?

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Re: False/Secret Compartments? [Re: redbike7]
      #144877 - 09/09/06 09:06 AM

Quote:

Define 'secret compartment'. Under the seat? The console of my F150 has a tray with a 'secret compartment' below it.




That's not really secret, is it? On the TBA my idea of a secret compartment, one potentially used for illicit purposes, would be the stock airbox. But the Freak container is something you can get to without tools, simply by pulling the side cover off. It's not factory, but it's hardly secret. I guess what I'm saying is the Freak container is the most pathetic secret compartment ever.

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