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outerbanks
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Re: Honda rebel [Re: Alatamoc]
      #662685 - 11/23/16 03:21 AM

The H-D Street 750/500 is a bike many people asked Harley to build, they wanted an affordable modern design American made Harley. The 500 is only $6,800 and it IS built in America by people making a living wage not a third world sweat shop. So then people say well the fit and finish look sub standard when sitting next to a showroom full of $25,000 touring bikes. Duh, it's the price point. I've seen a couple of 750 on the road but the 500 only on training courses. H-D offers over 400 accessories for the Street and the 750 easily out performs bikes like the Honda 750 Shadow.

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findlay13
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Re: Honda rebel [Re: outerbanks]
      #662686 - 11/23/16 03:43 AM

I heard they were built in India.Maybe just some of the parts.Lots of Honda , Kawasaki, and the Triumph twins are built in Thailand.

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Re: Honda rebel [Re: findlay13]
      #662687 - 11/23/16 04:12 AM

The Harley 500/750 is built both in India and the USA. The India builds are for export sales while the USA bikes are sold in North America. Harley dared not offend it's base by trying to sell a foreign made bike in their boutiques. This despite the many imported parts used on their more popular models, Harley still is proud to be a American co.

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findlay13
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Re: Honda rebel [Re: tinmantwo]
      #662689 - 11/23/16 05:03 AM

I used to have a Miroku,Japanese .22 rifle.The same gun from the same factory was sold in the USA called Browning
Consumer sentiment is a strange thing.
My Harley[AMF]Had many Japanese parts.
My Triumph was half made in Thailand.


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outerbanks
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Re: Honda rebel [Re: findlay13]
      #662757 - 11/26/16 03:26 AM

Quote:

I used to have a Miroku,Japanese .22 rifle.The same gun from the same factory was sold in the USA called Browning
Consumer sentiment is a strange thing.
My Harley[AMF]Had many Japanese parts.
My Triumph was half made in Thailand.





Should buy a real American Henry rifle their motto is "Made In America or not made at all" every part of their rifle is made in USA from American sourced steel and wood. The quality is outstanding from their most expensive $3,400 original engraved series 44-40 to their basic little $360 22 lever action rifles.

I've got 2 Harley Davidsons now and have visited the headquarters, museum and engine plant in Wisconsin and the assembly plant in Kansas City Mo, the other plant is in Pennsylvania. The plant actually forms, welds and paints the tanks frames and fenders from American made steel. Of course some parts like the suspension forks and shocks are supplied by Showa a Japanese company and Harley of course does not make things like ball bearings so they buy them from quality suppliers who may or may not make them in the U.S. But to say well see that small part right there is from a supplier therefore Harelys aren't American made is very weak indeed.

And this buyer's "sentiment" is that I want an original product that is what it says it is not a Triumph emblem on a Bonneville that was made in Thailand. That's why my next Triumph would be a Thunderbird because they are still actually made in England and therefore are the real thing. Even if they might have some German bearings or Japanese shocks.

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findlay13
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Re: Honda rebel [Re: outerbanks]
      #662758 - 11/26/16 05:15 AM

If I bought another .22 it'd be an Anschutz.I doubt I will but I'd buy a .22 Mag or .17HMR in preference now.
Harley make a decent bike THESE days.A mate bought a new 1974 XLCH and I bought a new 1974 XLH in Australia.Japanese indicators,starter motor,electrics
The starter motor and the indicators and electrics never failed.Much of the rest did.
The guy with the XLCH took his seat off after delivery and found an empty Winston cigarette packet stuffed in the down tube.Mine dropped a valve into the piston within the first 500 miles.I wont bore you with the other sordid details of what went wrong with both those bikes.British workmanship was just as bad if not worse back then.
One thing the Japanese did, is make reliability a must for any brand these days.

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Re: Honda rebel [Re: outerbanks]
      #662759 - 11/26/16 06:16 AM

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Should buy a real American Henry rifle their motto is "Made In America or not made at all" every part of their rifle is made in USA from American sourced steel and wood. The quality is outstanding from their most expensive $3,400 original engraved series 44-40 to their basic little $360 22 lever action rifles.

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I'm big on buying stuff Made in USA, and that includes my Henry rifle and a number of Ruger firearms.

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findlay13
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Re: Honda rebel [Re: Speedmaster05]
      #662764 - 11/26/16 02:52 PM

I can understand that.I will buy Australian by preference.

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Re: Honda rebel [Re: findlay13]
      #662778 - 11/27/16 05:28 AM

It only makes sense to support your neighbors by buying things made locally,if possible. This whole Global economy is just an excuse to use cheap labor and increase corp.profits.

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Re: Honda rebel [Re: findlay13]
      #662779 - 11/27/16 06:02 AM

Quote:

If I bought another .22 it'd be an Anschutz.I doubt I will but I'd buy a .22 Mag or .17HMR in preference now.
Harley make a decent bike THESE days.A mate bought a new 1974 XLCH and I bought a new 1974 XLH in Australia.Japanese indicators,starter motor,electrics
The starter motor and the indicators and electrics never failed.Much of the rest did.
The guy with the XLCH took his seat off after delivery and found an empty Winston cigarette packet stuffed in the down tube.Mine dropped a valve into the piston within the first 500 miles.I wont bore you with the other sordid details of what went wrong with both those bikes.British workmanship was just as bad if not worse back then.
One thing the Japanese did, is make reliability a must for any brand these days.




42 years ago Harley Davidson was owned by AMF who bought the company in 1969 and cut the work force and compromised the quality of the bikes which resulted in labor strikes. So the mid 1970s were the worst years in Harley Davidson history, comparing today's products with those 42 years ago is like comparing a new Toyota to the Toyotas shipped here to the U.S. in the 1960's that were incapable of maintaining 70 MPH speed limit and when Toyota executives tried to prove they were reliable by driving across America they broke down and had to abandon the attempt. Driving coast to coast was something American cars had been doing since the Model-T Ford. Very disgusting how people always give a pass to the quality failings of foreign products but people still bring up the Pinto and Vega as an example of low quality American cars decades later.

By they way it was an American who taught Japanese companies how to build quality products, his name was W. Edwards Deming.

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