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tinmantwo
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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: Alatamoc]
      #663046 - 12/07/16 02:48 PM

It's all about sales volume, they have built pretty much the same bike for 13 years now,small wonder they do not sell well. A mid size cruiser with big power may be viewed as a threat to their bigger bikes, as it would be. We can still hope, but of course they will keep quiet at least until they clear the decks of the air cooled bikes.

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Alatamoc
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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: tinmantwo]
      #663047 - 12/07/16 02:58 PM

Dead right it'd be a threat to their bigger bikes ( but I won't go into that again, yawn)
But what they dont realise is that so many of us are waiting to buy a product from them if only they'd make it...so, so many folks are aching for a Triumph in this capacity and style.
Even in my own UK patch club which is heavily HD oriented, at least 40% of us would ditch the HDs for a TBA/Speedy that has more grunt than the present offering.
( The other 60% would buy HD if these were made of cheese and didn't run at all.).

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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: Alatamoc]
      #663048 - 12/07/16 03:35 PM

I think the biggest threat to the current Thunderbird is it's looks. It's a big twin but not a traditional looking British Twin. The 900 and 1200 look like traditional British Twins and in this market segment a traditional look means a lot.
Harley cruisers have looked the same for decades and they keep selling so I don't think the look is getting old, instead, I think it is preferred for a cruiser. That's why there is so many hoping that Triumph will produce a traditional looking large cruiser.


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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: Alatamoc]
      #663049 - 12/07/16 04:31 PM

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Dead right it'd be a threat to their bigger bikes ( but I won't go into that again, yawn)
But what they dont realise is that so many of us are waiting to buy a product from them if only they'd make it...so, so many folks are aching for a Triumph in this capacity and style.
Even in my own UK patch club which is heavily HD oriented, at least 40% of us would ditch the HDs for a TBA/Speedy that has more grunt than the present offering.
( The other 60% would buy HD if these were made of cheese and didn't run at all.).




I have a friend like that.Quite an intelligent fella in other ways but only ever owned HDs

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mikemm03
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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: jamesbrown]
      #663050 - 12/07/16 04:55 PM

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I think the biggest threat to the current Thunderbird is it's looks. It's a big twin but not a traditional looking British Twin. The 900 and 1200 look like traditional British Twins and in this market segment a traditional look means a lot.
Harley cruisers have looked the same for decades and they keep selling so I don't think the look is getting old, instead, I think it is preferred for a cruiser. That's why there is so many hoping that Triumph will produce a traditional looking large cruiser.


does a traditional looking cruiser look like a Harley? Plenty of those to choose from

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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: mikemm03]
      #663054 - 12/08/16 01:04 AM

I've been giving this matter serious thought whilst cleaning the bathroom....so it's official research,eh?
If I'm Triumph I'm maybe thinking ' all the folks who like the traditional cruiser style are old guys..so they'll die soon and this market is therefore a shrinking one. We should make our bikes to be lifestyle accessories to appeal to well heeled younger people.'
I'm also old enough to remember how I clung desperately to my Meriden Triumphs.....till the company folded. I didn't want a new engine with whirry cams in it..... but I did want the old one with reliability and ease of maintenance built in.
I think this is where HD got it right with the Evolution bikes......I bought them.....so did others and saved the company.
Sadly bike makers try to be forward thinking whilst most motorcylists are somewhat conservative in their tastes.
So I'm not optimistic about a new TBA given the above ramblings.
Al

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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: Alatamoc]
      #663057 - 12/08/16 05:52 AM

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( The other 60% would buy HD if these were made of cheese and didn't run at all.).




being that the HD's are made in Wisconsin (at least in name), cheese likely is the main ingredient in assembly.

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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: mag10]
      #663059 - 12/08/16 09:14 AM

That explains much.

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Re: Speed Twin reintroduction perhaps? [Re: Alatamoc]
      #663060 - 12/08/16 10:39 AM

I own both Triumph and Harley bikes, they are both fine machines. The Harley has better fit and finish but it weighs more and costs more, no cheese has been observed in either bike.

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      #663062 - 12/08/16 10:55 AM

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