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wiredgeorge
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HELP! What is it?
      #559518 - 05/07/12 12:52 PM

The pipes on my new-to-me America are just too loud... my ears are ringing. The pipes OD is 3" with little taper on the muffler section. The ID is about 2 7/8". I think the head pipes with heat shields are stock as there is a crossover between the head pipes. There is a reduction inside the muffler about 8 to 10 inches in; hard to measure exactly as they are slash cut but the reduction appears to be roughly 2". There is a hole in the muffler where a baffle once lived. There is no heat shield on the muffler part. I suspect the baffle was 8" or so. Anyone have an idea what type mufflers I own? Where can I buy some quiet baffles. HardKrome sells 3" baffles and I am not sure if that means they fit 3" OD or ID; I will check with them.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: wiredgeorge]
      #559525 - 05/07/12 01:15 PM

Looks like you got Epco pipes here ,I love mine and some earplugs

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: wiredgeorge]
      #559542 - 05/07/12 04:05 PM

There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD"

You dang old folks



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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: JasonSonOfEd]
      #559547 - 05/07/12 05:07 PM

Epco's are one of the loudest aftermarket pipes out there. You could buy a less loud type and sell the Epco's on here to offset the cost. TORs (Triumph Off Road) are a little louder than stock, but not too loud. There is a loudness comparison somewhere on here between different mufflers, I think. I think that stuffing an aftermarket baffle into your Epco's would be more trouble than it would be worth, and hard to get right.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: arstaren]
      #559548 - 05/07/12 06:04 PM

those look a lot like Scepters to me

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: roadworthy]
      #559549 - 05/07/12 06:10 PM

It's a muffer. DUH.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: roadworthy]
      #559550 - 05/07/12 06:10 PM

And you can get extra baffles from Team Triumph in Wisconsin

http://www.rideteamtriumph.com/america_&_speedmaster.htm

The Silver inserts will quiet them down a ton. I have Gold on mine after riding for years with only the stock baffles. You will know they are Scepters if they have a serial number on the inside behind the welded on mounting bracket

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: wiredgeorge]
      #559551 - 05/07/12 06:12 PM





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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: roadworthy]
      #559552 - 05/07/12 06:14 PM

Quote:

those look a lot like Scepters to me




Agree

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: mikemm03]
      #559557 - 05/07/12 06:28 PM

Quote:

Quote:

those look a lot like Scepters to me




Agree




My first thought too.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: FriarJohn]
      #559558 - 05/07/12 06:35 PM

Quote:

It's a muffer. DUH.






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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: JasonSonOfEd]
      #559619 - 05/08/12 04:08 AM

Quote:

There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD"




+1 agreed

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: sconsi]
      #559624 - 05/08/12 06:11 AM

Quote:

Quote:

There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD"




+1 agreed



Actually, yes there is.



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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: Soren]
      #559625 - 05/08/12 06:15 AM

Forgot about that one Soren.

He was just jealous because you sound like a real motorbike and not a weedwacker.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: sconsi]
      #559626 - 05/08/12 06:39 AM

I am old. I like peace and quiet. I already own bikes that are much faster and they are quiet too. There is a reason there are different types of pipes; something for everyone I guess.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: wiredgeorge]
      #559631 - 05/08/12 07:12 AM

buy a set of tors or even a set of bubs

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: edmspeedmaster]
      #559635 - 05/08/12 07:27 AM

Does anyone know if a Sceptre Exhaust will work with an aftermarket center stand? Team Triumph doesn't open till 10AM and I will give them a call later this AM. thanks wg

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: wiredgeorge]
      #559644 - 05/08/12 08:30 AM

If you seek a quiet bike, Sceptres seem like the wrong direction?

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: Ryk]
      #559645 - 05/08/12 08:36 AM

Thanks for the insight. I already OWN Sceptres and am going to check on baffles; it seems it might cost less to use what I have with baffles than find stock mufflers.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: wiredgeorge]
      #559662 - 05/08/12 11:33 AM

Quote:

Thanks for the insight. I already OWN Sceptres and am going to check on baffles; it seems it might cost less to use what I have with baffles than find stock mufflers.




I would consider a trade stock pipes for what you have.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: sconsi]
      #559693 - 05/08/12 02:57 PM

Quote:

Forgot about that one Soren.

He was just jealous because you sound like a real motorbike and not a weedwacker.






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wiredgeorge
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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: chuckyj]
      #559710 - 05/08/12 04:25 PM

Since the stock pipes can be had for around $200 (or less) shipped via eBay or otherwise and the Spectre pipes go for $650 new and mine are in very nice condition, you will have to make me a deal involving a bit of cash. I have already had a couple guys nibbling. Take this to PM if you are really interested. If I go for stock pipes, they will have to be in good condition and have all the innards intact. Thanks - wg

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: The_Dog33]
      #559808 - 05/08/12 10:43 PM

I have Stainless Ride which I believe use to be Epco, the pipe slash is facing the wrong way to be Epco if they kept the same design. I will say that mine are loud but no complaints.


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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: amglo]
      #559847 - 05/09/12 08:05 AM

I still say Scepters, The Epco seems to have a less pronou8nced taper at the header end.

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wiredgeorge
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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: The_Dog33]
      #559889 - 05/09/12 01:31 PM

There is a number on the inside of the black mount; mine were Z42 (I think that is what it said as it is hard to tell the zed from the two)

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: The_Dog33]
      #559913 - 05/09/12 03:32 PM

I agree, Scepters

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wiredgeorge
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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: amglo]
      #559987 - 05/10/12 05:34 AM

Anybody with a set of Sceptres have a number on the inside of their mount brackets... the actual number seemed to be Z42 L on the left bracket. I suspect the L was for left.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: sconsi]
      #562853 - 05/31/12 03:25 PM

Quote:

Quote:

There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD"




+1 agreed




++1 loud pipes get more attention from the cagers....i.e. safer...loud is good...ear plugs work too

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: Buffal0]
      #564771 - 06/15/12 10:35 PM

I will happily trade stock pipes off my 2010 America for those... Assuming they will work with EFI etc?

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: Puniphorous]
      #564774 - 06/15/12 11:15 PM

What? I can't hear you over the ringing in my ears! Here is a picture of mine. Don't know what they are. They are straight cut and loud. I like the way they sound and I have been told by V-Twin owners that they wished their bike sounded like mine!


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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: Scottb1966]
      #564790 - 06/16/12 05:23 AM

I now have stock mufflers on my BA and am very happy to have it that way. I don't care for loud pipes anymore; I outgrew that stage in my life. I have been riding for longer and owned more bikes than most and I suppose that it isn't cool to like quiet bikes but I am not cool.. I am me.

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Re: HELP! What is it? [Re: wiredgeorge]
      #564908 - 06/17/12 09:20 AM

Right on George,thats why they say go your own way.

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