Gregger
Oil Expert
Reged: 04/07/07
Posts: 2371
Loc: Timmins, Ontario
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After I blew past my chum on his Fatboy last weekend during a 2nd gear rollout all he could say was "That bike is noisy".
I just smiled. A 790 blowing the doors off a 1700.
PS - I'm running long straight through TORS
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MarcellusWallace
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Reged: 05/23/10
Posts: 110
Loc: VA, USA
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When my dealer put my TORs on, I thought they were too loud. Noticeably louder than stock. Now, some times I wish they were quieter, mainly down low. My civilian friends do not think think they are (too) loud down low however, and I have asked several.
Other than the BS shield/cover the TORs have, I think the pipes are hard to beat for multiple reasons. I am considering removing the double wall from the header, replacing w/ wrap, and getting rid of the shield.
The TORs, IMO, well made, perform well, sound good. Highly recommended.
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Keith
Stickman Yogi
Reged: 03/21/09
Posts: 11610
Loc: BC, Canada
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After I blew past my chum on his Fatboy last weekend during a 2nd gear rollout all he could say was "That bike is noisy".
I just smiled. A 790 blowing the doors off a 1700.
PS - I'm running long straight through TORS
+1
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wallyworldcanada
Complete Newb
Reged: 04/26/07
Posts: 7
Loc: Canadian Rockies
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Great thread!
I have been running the short TORs for seven years and find they have a lot of bark. I was considering trying the long TORs. Does anyone know if one set is louder overall than the other? As well, are there any quality aftermarket carbs for the earlier 790cc?
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Zmilin
Saddle Sore
Reged: 03/02/07
Posts: 5109
Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
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Don't know about the TORS but Keihin FCR carbs are the shiznit!
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Dwight
Fe Butt
Reged: 02/03/05
Posts: 17828
Loc: Sedona, Arizona
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I've read the words, "my bike now has a nice bark" twice in this thread, and so I have to ask the following...
While I realize the degree to which the sounds any motorcycle makes is subjective, I've always wondered why you guys who like that "bark", like that "bark"?(and no, I wasn't being redundant there)
You see, I think that "bark" or maybe better said, that "tinny" higher pitched "WAAAAAAAAH" sound when you open up the throttle on our bikes with a "straight pipe" or totally unbaffled muffler, is well, terrible sounding. I MUCH prefer a lower pitch "rumble" sound on our bikes, or ANY bikes for that matter, and when its muffler has at least a little baffling inside it, regardless of "how loud" it is.
(...though, as anyone who knows me around here knows, I CAN'T STAND EXCESSIVELY LOUD PIPES, regardless of how much they "rumble" or NOT...and MAINLY because, as Ed[oldroadie] pointed out above, loud pipes do NOTHING BUT piss off not ONLY "The Man" but almost EVERYONE who doesn't ride a motorcycle, and THOSE are "bad odds" for us in the long run...and I DON'T need excessively loud pipes to "prove" to anyone one that I'm some kind of freakin' "Rebel" EITHER...hell, I do THAT by just by bein' CONTRARY and by often stating unpopular opinions among by peers...as, once again, anyone who knows me around here knows!!!!)
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wallyworldcanada
Complete Newb
Reged: 04/26/07
Posts: 7
Loc: Canadian Rockies
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Thanks for the input and insight.
I should have posted the carb question on the carb forum so I will. "Keihin FCR carbs are the shiznit!" It might be easier to keep my pipes/jetted carbs as a set since the bike runs like doom. Second set of pipes equals second set of carbs?
For the record, I claimed my short TORs "have a lot of bark". There is no reference to any niceness associated with that bark. Actually, I am not very fond of the bark at all. I have known only these pipes and their bark since delivery from the dealer(carbs jetted and dyno'd). I need different pipes without compromising my current setup so I can switch at will if required. I did land a used set of America long, slashcut stock silencers as a backup in case the laws change, and they have. The OEM sewing machine is not an option. Gradually drilling out these stock pipes while rejetting may be. A direct replacement with rejet would be ideal.
I think the 790cc will struggle to match the warm, low-end rumble and growl produced by much larger displacements. The natural low-midrange characteristics of the 790 are more apt to create a classic bubbling racing tone. Since these engines like high revs, pipes should sound authentic in 5K rpm range. I find my short TORs hum/buzz loudly at a mid-high midrange tone. Off the line they are loud, low yet raspy with splash of bark. Either way, sound is always a personal preference.
There was a series of videos awhile back that showed an early model America with long TORs and one with Bubs. The Bubs were nice but it was hard to tell when the engine was revved as high as it was. The long TORs on the 790cc sounded very retro British without that bark. They were honky-throaty and would likely sound nice while riding "needles up" without being too over-bearing. They were however lacking substantial warmth in the low range. Does anybody think these pipes are too loud?
I am not a fan of excessive exhaust noise. Residential respect calls not only for reasonable pipes (people accept motorcycles are naturally loud) but also an attitude in riding approach. Putting along to get through these sensitive areas shows that you are trying to be considerate and that goes a long way to keeping the peace and freedom we ultimately are seeking. Always be a good neighbor: crack a bottle not the throttle.
Pipes anyone? 
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moe
Bearing Changer
Reged: 01/11/05
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Loc: Merritt Island, Fl
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Dwight, for some reason when you describe 'bark' I hear a Chihuahua. 
Loud pipes, quiet pipes? Long slash cut TORs, a set of D&D's and lastly (firstly actually) a set of Sceptres.
There is nothing like a whisper jet when rolling cross country. NOTHING! Prudence is so quiet the only reason I wear ear plugs is due to the wind noise at 5,500 rpms in 5th gear.  Yes, at times I would like the bark of either the D&D's or the Sceptres (like when I am easing through the blind spot of traffic light bound cages), but the Whisper Jet effect of the long TORS is just so, quiet! Heck Prudence is jetted 40/120! Call me lazy but Prudence runs fine, is respectable in the hood, and never comes across as Barking Mad. So there is a bit to admire about quiet pipes. Actually quite a lot!
That is not to denigrate the absolute nirvana experienced when a cager is texting/on a cell phone and Cinnamon Girl passes it then drops a gear or two. The resonance in the cage is enough to demand Shout Out being sprayed to a certain cotton article of clothing... 
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dahla
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Reged: 08/06/07
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Loc: Sellebakk, Norway
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Quote:
I've read the words, "my bike now has a nice bark" twice in this thread, and so I have to ask the following...
While I realize the degree to which the sounds any motorcycle makes is subjective, I've always wondered why you guys who like that "bark", like that "bark"?(and no, I wasn't being redundant there)
You see, I think that "bark" or maybe better said, that "tinny" higher pitched "WAAAAAAAAH" sound when you open up the throttle on our bikes with a "straight pipe" or totally unbaffled muffler, is well, terrible sounding. I MUCH prefer a lower pitch "rumble" sound on our bikes, or ANY bikes for that matter, and when its muffler has at least a little baffling inside it, regardless of "how loud" it is.
(...though, as anyone who knows me around here knows, I CAN'T STAND EXCESSIVELY LOUD PIPES, regardless of how much they "rumble" or NOT...and MAINLY because, as Ed[oldroadie] pointed out above, loud pipes do NOTHING BUT piss off not ONLY "The Man" but almost EVERYONE who doesn't ride a motorcycle, and THOSE are "bad odds" for us in the long run...and I DON'T need excessively loud pipes to "prove" to anyone one that I'm some kind of freakin' "Rebel" EITHER...hell, I do THAT by just by bein' CONTRARY and by often stating unpopular opinions among by peers...as, once again, anyone who knows me around here knows!!!!)
I'm a little interested now, is there any pipes that makes our bikes rumble even when we twist the handle? I have the SS pipes and they sound schweeeeet when idling, but as soon as a accelerate or cruise, they seem ... well, nasal and high pitched...
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rgoldberg
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Loc: Vail, Az
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IMO the cocktail shakers sound best when accelerating. While at speed they sound great but really come alive when I twist the throttle.
Today onthe way in to work I passed a cager on her phone. I dropped to 3rd and reved as I up shifted to 4th. She cut me a dirty look and held her phone up as if to say, "Really? I'm trying to talk on the phone here!"
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