ladisney
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not all the tribes have casinos, what the cops did was stop everycar going on or off the res.And basically harass the crap out of them. Not blaming the cops here. It was done on the Governors orders.
Some politicians think of all money as their own, they just allow you to keep some of it. On the other hand, if they keep getting elected the people have only themselves to blame.
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington
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Bucky
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It was done on the Governors orders.
Funny how all the harassment stopped once the state got a cut of the gambling action, which, without a lot of research, seems pretty close to illegal if we're talking about a state levied tax upon a sovereign nation.  Then the state spin doctors had the b&lls to tell us "The money will go to education."
Mmm Hmmm - sure it will.
I can't see how that CT casino deal was any different than when organized crime does a shakedown. And to beat that, had organized crime done the extortion deal at the casino, they wouldn't demand a paper trail, reports, permits, and compliance audits like the state of CT surely must.
I had to laugh when I read that the CT revenuers rolled up to the NY Seneca reservation, and demanded the list of CT cigarette customers buying tax free cigarettes. The Senecas told them to go pound sand. I love it. Then a few of our elected geniuses in Washington figured it would be a good idea to introduce a bill to demand by law that UPS & Fedex drivers collect cigarette taxes upon delivery. I kid you not.
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ladisney
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Government and organized crime have a lot in common. That's why the less you can have of either the better off you are. As a former FedEx driver I can tell you that making them collect taxes would be difficult. How do you know what's in the package? How much is the tax? What if they don't have the money? What if they are not home? What if the driver "forgets?"
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bennybmn
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Government and organized crime have a lot in common.
Except the criminals are usually more organized 
Making drivers collect is just funny. Like you said how would they know what is in it? Isn't it somewhat illegal to know what is in it other than knowing what is NOT in it? I have to fill out condition reports to ship stuff sometimes for work, ya know "this does NOT contain XYZ". Plus, I know some mail men and FedEx guys, and I know some folks who order smokes from the web, A: I can't imagine these people caring or taking the time to collect, and B: I can't imagine the recipients even bothering to entertain the conversation
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oneijack
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I think the state missed the boat with the indain casinos,
Instead of trying to fight them on it, Should have tried to make a deal right from the start for "A piece of the action"
Maybe even offered to help out money wise for a part ownership, should have asked themselves "What would Gambino do?"
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ladisney
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Too often the biggest difference between the Mob and the government is that the Mob doesn't have badges and doesn't pretend to be looking after anyone other than themselves. The Iowa nannystaters just increased the cigarette tax from 36 cents to $1.36. For our own good of course. All other tobacco taxes went up too. Just what we need, politicians and bureaucrats controlling our personal choices. When and where (if) does it stop? Once the premise is accepted that they know better then we do I wonder what the limit may be.
C. S. Lewis said it best:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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oneijack
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Yep I'd rather be oppressed by Heathens than Puritans.
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melvin
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suck helmet laws
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The_Dog33
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The second hand smoke thing weather it's bad for others or not it's very unpleasant for a nonsmoker.It can ruin a meal having to breathe that crap when you are eating. I also can't believe it's harmless. Nonsmokers don't inflict anything on the smoker but the smoker inflicts thier bad habbit on the nonsmoker. I am all for smoking bans in resturants I don't think it needs to be banned in bars as most people would expect it there and can choose not to go in and it is pretty much an adult only inviornment.
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ladisney
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But is it the job of bureaucrats and politicians to tell the owner of an establishment whether or not to allow smoking? If the owner decides to ban smoking, or anything else, that is his business because, well, it's his business. When the government does it it’s petty tyranny.
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington
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