Hermit
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Reged: 01/28/07
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Loc: NE FL
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I've been ticketed for speeding (truck), not wearing a seatbelt (truck) and not wearing eye protection (but wearing the helmet) on a GL1200 with its billboard sized windshield. I was clearly guilty, but of the 3 tickets, the speeding ticket was the least expensive fine.
So... endangering the lives of others by speeding down the highway carries less of a penalty than endangering myself by not wearing the seatbelt or eye protection. Go figure.
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bennybmn
Should be Riding
Reged: 01/11/05
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Loc: Long Island, NY
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The times they are a changin!
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ctmike
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that is where I stand, I can back up laws pertaining to actions that affect the rest of the population but I think they cross the line with laws that only affect my personal safety like helmets and seatbelts.
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ladisney
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Loc: Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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They start with the humanitarian impulse of caring for you if you get injured but that costs money so they must quickly move to the socialist method of having someone else pay for their generosity. Once they have assumed the power to take money from others to care for you it’s only natural they will get the totalitarian impulse to control your life so as to keep the costs down. If you expect politicians and bureaucrats to act as surrogate parents and take care of your needs you shouldn’t be too surprised when they also act as surrogate parents to control your life.
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HeneryHawk
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Reged: 05/31/06
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Loc: Cambridge,IL
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Why is it that those who want to control our lives ( helmet laws, seatbelts, smoking, transfats, etc ) and love use high tax rates to facilitate their ends, seem to have accumulated their wealth already and arent concerned about paying high taxes ( taxes hit those who make more, no those who have it already ).
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ladisney
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Loc: Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Quote:
Why is it that those who want to control our lives ( helmet laws, seatbelts, smoking, transfats, etc ) and love use high tax rates to facilitate their ends, seem to have accumulated their wealth already and arent concerned about paying high taxes ( taxes hit those who make more, no those who have it already ).
The worst of them no longer pay any taxes due to accounting tricks and tax shelters that are not available to the majority of us. There are lots of examples but my post would get deleted if I went any further with this 
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Frank
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Loc: cambridge massachusetts
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smoking effects those around us unlike helmets or seatbelts 
Frank
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Saltatrix
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Reged: 05/04/06
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Loc: Long Island, NY
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Everyone should have the right to not wear a helmet if they so choose as long as they sign a waiver that allows their state to refuse them "ward of the state" status should they end up a vegetable due to head injury and have no means of paying for their medical care. If riders want to be "FREE" and ride helmet-less then they should expect taxpayers to be "FREE" from the financial burden of caring for them when they end up as artichokes (IMHO  ).
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77T140V
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Reged: 01/11/05
Posts: 1175
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I'd rather pay NY state tax dollars for "Artichoke" care than Ms. Clintons salary or housing murderers on Rikers Island (Death penalty rescinded in NY - 2004). Luckily I don't live in NY.
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Saltatrix
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Loc: Long Island, NY
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I'd rather pay NY state tax dollars
No need to. You can donate here:
http://www.bianys.org/
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