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FriarJohnAdministrator
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Steering clear of Virginia
      #235213 - 07/17/07 11:53 AM

Of course, living in Montana, steering clear of VA is not a problem:

"Starting July 1, an array of traffic offenses, from expired licenses to speeding, come with a "civil remedial fee" attached. That means a motorist convicted of reckless driving (75 mph in a 55 zone would qualify) faces not only a fine of up to $2,500 and a year in jail, but a non-negotiable $350-a-year tax for three years. The law forbids judges from waiving or reducing the fee."

Full story:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/Advice/VirginiasNewSpeedingTicket.aspx

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EnglishYankee
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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: FriarJohn]
      #235221 - 07/17/07 12:08 PM

I just read that article the other day, scary stuff. Fortunately they can't enforce the fees for out-of-state drivers. Only problem is that other states are starting to adopt this legislation as well. I enjoyed growing up in Northern Virginia but I don't think I could ever afford to move back.


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LitzerSki
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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: EnglishYankee]
      #235222 - 07/17/07 12:09 PM

not with that 675 anyways...

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JCBullen
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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: FriarJohn]
      #235227 - 07/17/07 12:24 PM

Whew! I thought it was about steering clear of... Oh, never mind!

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EnglishYankee
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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: LitzerSki]
      #235228 - 07/17/07 12:26 PM

Yeah, definitely not.

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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: FriarJohn]
      #235231 - 07/17/07 12:27 PM

Holy Moly

Never wanted to go to Virginia anyway

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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: FriarJohn]
      #235234 - 07/17/07 12:44 PM

WOW! And to think, I thought the $186 40 in a 30mph I got was bad. These "fees" are downright cruel! What exactly is a "civil remedial fee" anyway? Sounds like extortion.


If we had more comprehensive driver training in this country....

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ladisney
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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: FriarJohn]
      #235236 - 07/17/07 12:51 PM

Virgina had a mini revolt over car tags and toosed a lot of the SOB's out several years ago. Sounds like a good platform for an aspiring politician.

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jj_
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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: FriarJohn]
      #235240 - 07/17/07 12:54 PM

Pretty harsh stuff, charging you more for breaking the law at the felony level. What are they thinking?

Virginians have started revolting on-line. There's a petition that just about has the state legislature convinced to, if not roll back the statute, at least to take a look at it again in January.

We certainly don't want to penalize someone for exercising their right to do something as simple as felony DWI or felony reckless driving. That you might kill an innocent person is certainly no reason to be charged more for felony violation of a privilege that apparently many see as a right.

And according to the linked article many other states do it as well, not just VA. VA just hasn't seen fit to charge everyone equally. I'm a resident, and I'm all for it, but I think it should apply to any felony violator, as I believe is the case in New York, New Jersey, Michigan and Texas.

But of course since it's in the news for VA, let's just forget about the other states that do it.

So for now, VA would be the one state that out-of-stators would be treated more leniently than the other states who have such laws. You may want to reconsider which state you would steer clear of.


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Dwight
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Re: Steering clear of Virginia [Re: roundy77]
      #235242 - 07/17/07 12:55 PM

Well, so much for my planned suggestion to the Tourist Bureau of that Commonwealth for a slight modification of their motto to.....
"Virginia is for lovers..of velocity!"

(notice if you will how that fell trippingly off the tongue)

I guess it's back to the old drawin' board for me!

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Edited by Dwight (07/17/07 01:17 PM)


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