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My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain)
      #406074 - 07/20/09 01:48 AM

I had the perfect week from he||. The worst is detailed here. But leading up to it I had electrical problems and my chain is dying I think.

First, I rode in the rain most of the day on Monday from Helena to Freedom's house. During a stop in Missoula, a bit over half way, it wouldn't start for several minutes. After that it ran without fail the rest of the way to John's.

Tuesday morning after gassing and loading up, it would die, it would miss and pop through the carbs and exhaust then die. It would run ballz out for 10 minute and just shut down, then not restart for about another 10 minutes. Mind you, we were leaving Freedom's house for a little (?) tour of British Columbia. I couldn't trust it.

So we trucked it over to Empire Cycles in Spokane (Tingley's in Missoula didn't have a mechanic on duty all day). We left it for them and they got right on it (I'm pretty impressed overall with Empire), but we returned to T-Falls. The mechanic started tracing out and testing every circuit. He found "a resistance" and repaired some corroded connections in the neutral light and/or kickstand kill switch circuits. He said he noticed that the neutral light was now much brighter. Early Wednesday morning we went back to Spokane and I rode it back to Freedom's so we could load up and salvage some of vacation. We made it to Nelson without any problems.

Thursday morning on the way to do some laundry it ran like crap. Right cylinder wasn't firing at all. Exhaust was dead cold. I was freaking out by now. Thinking it was the coil I started calling all the dealerships in the NW that could've had people coming to Nelson for the Raid. They insisted that the coils generally don't go bad and they don't even stock them. After fiddling with it and trying to swap coils (at the laundromat) to test it and having no joy, I put everything back and limped it back to the hotel and started poking around some more. A new friend from Wyoming started helping me and wonder of wonders, he found the right coil wire wouldn't stay in the coil. So that was fixed. Zmilin said this happened on Karen's bike. Bike ran great after that.

Also, I ran without my fog lights turned on because they keep blowing fuses.

The last electrical problem manifested itself today on the way home from Spokane. The tach needle is going CRAZY. It's bouncing around all over the place. Nothing else seems wrong.

Next, my friggin chain keeps stretching. I kept adjusting it, probably 3-4 times in the last week. It's sagging a ton right now. I'm assuming that means it's worn out and the o-rings are toast. One guy in Nelson said I should've dropped it in a can of oil when I put it away in 2003 after installing my belt drive kit. Thing has less than 10k miles on it total.

Anyone care to comment on any of this? I'm amazed, after the week we've had, that it got me home. The upside is that the engine is running like a bat out of he||. Basically I'm going to tear the bike apart and go through everything if I ever want to take it out of town again. Probably get a new chain and sprocket set and Nology coils and wires just to be sure.

Eff Lucas.

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain) [Re: FriarJohn]
      #406078 - 07/20/09 02:01 AM

Well John, you have had the week from HeII, especially with our buddy. But hey, you met me! so it wasn't all bad!

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain) [Re: FriarJohn]
      #406085 - 07/20/09 02:49 AM

Firstly let me say I'm sorry for your riding mate. it's always bad when a rider goes down.
Reading of all the electrical faults on our bikes,I'm wondering what'll be next? I thought all these electircal faults had been left in the Meridan Triumph days.[at least I was hoping they had]

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The_Dog33
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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain) [Re: findlay13]
      #406094 - 07/20/09 05:40 AM

Sorry to hear of your troubles John. No real help from me though , those problems are best found by hands on examination. As for the chain , depending where it sat I supposed the O rings could have dried out but never heard of that before. at 10,000 miles that chain should have plenty of life left in it, strange. I never let a chain sit that long before I used it but I have to imagine they sit on warehouse shelves for a while.( probably not 6 years though)

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain [Re: The_Dog33]
      #406106 - 07/20/09 07:54 AM

John, this is a long shot but did you manage to put the chain and sprockets back on in the same direction they were on when you took them off?

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain [Re: oldroadie]
      #406131 - 07/20/09 09:45 AM

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John, this is a long shot but did you manage to put the chain and sprockets back on in the same direction they were on when you took them off?




I believe so. But that doesn't mean anything. For all I know I put the front sprocket on the back.

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain) [Re: FriarJohn]
      #406133 - 07/20/09 09:57 AM

Dont bother...Ill give you $500 for the bike as is!

You didnt tell everyone that the chain was rusting. Makes a cool jingling sound while riding...its be perfect for the holidays

Tach needle...Id follow your plan...go through all the connections and grease em up. You know this but Ill say it anyway...check your wires while your at it...look for pinches and sharp bends that can cause shorts and breaks.

Good luck...and if you get frustrated my offer stands

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain [Re: Zmilin]
      #406137 - 07/20/09 10:04 AM

The only bike you're buying for $500 is Freedom's...

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain [Re: FriarJohn]
      #406163 - 07/20/09 11:04 AM

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I believe so. But that doesn't mean anything. For all I know I put the front sprocket on the back.



10K is a fair amount of wear in one direction and reversing the parts could easily tip it over the edge. Once upon a time we used to reverse the sprockets to access the unworn side of the teeth and only be out the cost of a new chain, of course that was before O rings (and the internet)...

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Re: My bike is falling apart (electrical and chain [Re: oldroadie]
      #406185 - 07/20/09 12:27 PM

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They insisted that the coils generally don't go bad and they don't even stock them




That was his first lie after he failed to fix your bike. At 24K mine is in the garage. It is no longer going on a trip over 500 miles. The Prince of Darkness is alive and well. He seems almost purpose built into these things. I really like my bike for day rides when it can be close to tow truck services. Kinda like a Ural, cool to look at but hard to keep running.

My bike has been in a truck 5 times in 24K miles. Imagine how we would feel if our cars stopped running that often. Its shameful.

Sorry for your bad week John. A much greater shame about our member and your friend's accident.

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