oldgimmer
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Nice one, is that a good fit in the dash and where did you get the switched live feed from. I run a cycle computer on mine, have done for years but that would look so much neater and stop the MOT people asking why I only do 15 miles a year. Cheers Chris
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Bonfire_Boy
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Nice one, is that a good fit in the dash and where did you get the switched live feed from. I run a cycle computer on mine, have done for years but that would look so much neater and stop the MOT people asking why I only do 15 miles a year. Cheers Chris
Hi Chris,
The live switched feed is run back from the headlight. The connector that provided the wire for the original speedo lighting was used.
The diameter of the speedo is slightly smaller than the hole in the dash. I butchered the tacho and have used the top chrome ring from that to sit the speedo in which is a lovely fit. The only downside is that it makes it sit slightly taller, but only a few mm.
Cheers,
Glenn
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oldgimmer
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cheers Glen, couldnt remember what diameter the hole was in the dash, thought it was larger than 55mm. KOSO do some nice looking clocks to fit in, may just be purchasing one soon. Thanks for info Chris
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Steven
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Bonfire Boy,
I have been searching and searching for a solution to move the Speedometer to the Console and it looks like you have actually done exactly what I want. I wanted to keep this an analog gauge and also make sure that I could continue to have a trip meter for fuel considerations.
Can you help us understand how you adopted the Koso to the Triumph? Specifically, what did you use for the speed pickup? If you went pure digital, what did you do to seal up where the old cable went into the front wheel.
This has risen to the top of my next mod and I want to start working on a solution.
Any help/guidance you can offer is greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Steven
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Steven
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Also, any guidance on how much you had to butcher the tach is greatly appreciated. I hate to have to tear apart a perfectly good tach, but it appears that the mounting, the bezel and maybe even the cup are all valuable for this modification.
Again, thanks for any guidance. Steven
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Keith
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Can you help us understand how you adopted the Koso to the Triumph? Specifically, what did you use for the speed pickup? If you went pure digital, what did you do to seal up where the old cable went into the front wheel.
On my dash mounted speedo I mounted the pickup at the rear wheel, thus cleaning up the forks a bit more by not having a cable or wire there. I glued the magnet to one of the sprocket bolts. As for sealing the hole in the front hub where the cable once was, I was luck enough to find some plastic bit lying around the workbench that fit the hole perfectly. Anything will do... a small cork, a whittled piece of wood or rubber, bubble gum, a spot of chalking. I then pointed that part of the hub assembly down towards the ground where the plugged hole is not visible.
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Steven
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Good News and Bad News.
First, the good news. The speedo came this weekend and I was able to get it mounted (and didn't have to cannibalize my Tach). The secret ingredient is a Carlini Paint Saver (PSP-4). I have seen references to the other models they have and that it had to be enlarged. I am happy to say that that PSP-4 works VERY nicely. It has a slightly larger opening that the speedo cup, but I wrapped a couple of rounds of electrical tape just below the speedo bezel and it snugs it up nicely. I was also able to use the existing mount that is part of the console by drilling a new hole in it to accept one of the bolts coming out of the back of the Speedo.
There are correct leads within the wiring harness under the console for always-on Power, switched Power, and Ground. Also, the remote switch that comes with the Speedo fits very nicely into the unused hole on the console.
Now the bad news....
I can't seem to get the speedo to work properly. I have all wires connected per manual and speedo sweeps to start and lights properly.
The problem is that I don't seem to be reading the speed correctly and I also appear to be picking up interference somewhere. Not consistently, but very frequently, I can rev the bike and the speedometer needle moves. Although I went through the calibration setup, I never see more than about 20-30 indicated speed. Mostly, the speed indicated jumps back and forth between 0 and 20-30.
I have completely re-run my sensor pickup wire a few different times thinking that it may have been picking up interference from the coil. I have also re-routed the main power cable (always on) directly to the battery.
Lastly, I have checked the sensor wires and I get a +5v constant on the power lead (as expected), I also see a +5v spike on the other sensor wire (not ground) as the magnet turns past the sensor. I don't seem to be getting any spikes on that wire from just revving the bike.
I am now at a loss as to what might be causing the challenge.
Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Steven
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Keith
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Well first of all I'm really glad to hear you got the new speedo mounted up and looking good!! Nice one! But as for the problems you're having with it well... I wish I could help. Mine gave me no grief at all concerning the magnet and pickup. Once I dialed in the circumference of the wheel all was good. But your problem is just plain weird. I suppose there is a remote possibility it was faulty from the get-go. Is there a support # or a technical assistance line you can call for some help and suggestions?
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Steven
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Thanks for additional info...I have launched messages to Koso North America and I have also posted on a Koso European forums site. I have considered that there is a problem with the unit, but until I have some better information to go on, I am not sure. I am hoping to start a dialog with Koso so that I can get to the bottom line on what could affect this behavior and then keep on troubleshooting.
Any additional thoughts/pointers/suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Steven
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Steven
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Believe it or not, Koso NorthAmerican Technical support is on vacation for 2 weeks. Apparently, there is one guy in the Americas that can help. I am talking with others there and got some interesting ideas.
First, the main comment was that this is a Harley Speedometer and is not meant to be used on a non-Harley set up. When I mentioned that I have references of this speedo working on this bike, the conversation changed a bit.
I have a couple of things to try related to the interference issue.
Bonfire Boy,
One thing that would help from you is a little more information about the speed sensor you used. The one I purchased was called a universal Koso Speed Sensor and was about 1.5 inches long with Grey tip and Grey strain relief.
I have been trying a few different magnets and all of them appear to be signaling correctly because I can see the pulse come through on the wires as a +5V.
Can you provide any more information about the magnet setup that you have on your bike?
Any other thoughts are always appreciated.
Thanks, Steven
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