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The_Dog33
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Re: Noise [Re: Dwight2]
      #455447 - 06/05/10 08:50 PM

That is so cool, did he let you take a spin?

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Dwight2
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Re: Noise [Re: The_Dog33]
      #455454 - 06/05/10 10:47 PM

Nope, but then I didn't ask.

BTW, this guy also has a perfect 1964 Norton Atlas, though he's currently got the head off it and is havin' the valve seats redone. And, he has a neat little 1966 Honda S65 Super Cub, kind'a like my very first bike, a Honda S50, but with an OHC engine.

I'll get some pics posted of 'em soon if I can.

(and kind'a gettin' back on topic here...nope folks, I didn't have the guy start any of 'em up, so no, I don't what kind'a "noise" they make, but I'll bet it's sweet alright!)

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Re: Noise [Re: Dwight2]
      #455772 - 06/08/10 03:46 PM

Thanks guys. Sounds like there is no real controls for sound. The people here are complaining not about some loud bikes but several hundred a day going past there house.
Its sort of a minature Dragons tail. Forks of the Credit. Just north of Toronto.


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moeAdministrator
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Re: Noise [Re: Dwight2]
      #455835 - 06/09/10 07:37 AM

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Yep, a BEAUTIFUL totally restored 1938 Speed Twin!!!




omg

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moeAdministrator
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Re: Noise [Re: reave1]
      #455836 - 06/09/10 07:43 AM

Quote:

Thanks guys. Sounds like there is no real controls for sound. The people here are complaining not about some loud bikes but several hundred a day going past there house.
Its sort of a minature Dragons tail. Forks of the Credit. Just north of Toronto.




The AMA's Excessive Motorcycle Sound Position Statement.

Speaking of 'real controls for sound' The AMA supports a new sound test standard. excerpt,
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The SAE J2825 test is similar to the SAE J1287 test used for off-road motorcycles. A calibrated sound meter is held at a 45-degree angle 20 inches from the exhaust pipe of a running engine. J2825 establishes how to test the sound level when the bike is idle, at a predetermined engine speed (“Set RPM Test”), or by slowly increasing the engine speed (“Swept RPM Test”).




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newt
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Re: Noise [Re: Dwight2]
      #455875 - 06/09/10 02:31 PM

ADMITEDLY Dwight there are some that seem to take everything to extreme but i dont think my sceptres are to loud but you might?? either way all i did was pass by your house and was gone in a moment, meanwhile the guy next door has been running his lawnmower and equipment all day?? i hope you see my point because i do understand yours. my thinking is that most people need to shut up and go home and not worry so much about what the other guy is doing if he is not doing anything harmfull to you and yours, he is passing by and will be gone in a moment.

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erle
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Re: Noise [Re: roadworthy]
      #455880 - 06/09/10 03:13 PM

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don't forget all the parents that let all the little neighborhood girls run up and down the street screaming at the top of their lungs for no apparent reason!




My experience is they never out grow it either!

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Dwight2
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Re: Noise [Re: newt]
      #455911 - 06/09/10 10:29 PM

Actually newt, I think I do understand your position here, however, I'm sorry, I can not fully agree with you, and mainly because the situation you describe has an element to it I think you might have overlooked.

You see, I think this issue is also incumbent upon how busy a street a person's house sits. If for instance a person lives on a street that, say, has a vehicle pass their home every 15 seconds. That would mean in an hour's time 240 vehicles would have passed that home. And then let's say just 10% of those vehicles are motorcycles, which as you know are probably on average louder than almost all passenger cars and trucks anyway. And so, in that hour's time 24 motorcycles have passed that person's house.

And then lets say that EVERYBODY riding a motorcycle down that road had really loud exhausts on their motorcycle(and in my view, thank heavens they don't) that would mean that every two and a half minutes, that poor guy or gal living in that house would have his or her "peace"(for want of a better word) disturbed, or at least MORE disturbed. And I think THAT wouldn't be "right" or "fair" to that person.(but then again, that's just my opinion)

Now this scenario wouldn't of course apply to people who live in less densely populated areas or who live on street with little traffic.

Now, I suppose you could say that that's what that person "gets" for living in a more densely populated area, or on a busy street.

But, sorry, I don't buy that argument, because not everybody can live in a bucolic environment free of stress and loud noises,and with just the occasional annoyance in which to put up with. And maybe you might also know this, but many recent scientific findings have concluded that indeed loud noises contribute to a stressful environment, and of course, the more stress, the less healthful the environment.

And so...I still just think that those few riders who I feel for whatever reason just seems to possess an overwhelming need to be noticed by running VERY loud exhausts are in effect violating the right to a reasonable measure of "peace" to others. Of course, those who run extremely loud exhausts will tell you that that's because it'll "save their life" somehow, which I still believe is an argument which holds VERY little water. Almost half of all fatal or seriously injurious motorcycle/car collision accidents(seriously injurious to the motorcyclist, that is) are due to an auto driver making a left turn in front of an oncoming motorcyclist, and another high cause is when a motorcyclist stays much too long a time in a driver's blind spot, loud exhausts or not. And..well..there are numerous causes for these sorts of accidents that I believe running a VERY loud exhaust would do absolutely nothing to prevent.

However, to get back to your stance of just "turning the other cheek", or "this too shall pass", so to speak, is to me a...well... a cop out, and an affront, though maybe a minor one, to the idea that it's "not all about me" and that the concept of common courtesy is not all that important, which I believe is quickly going the way of the Do-Do bird anyway in our society.(anybody now wanna start a thread about cell phone etiquette here, maybe?!)

And in those more densely populated areas in our country of which I mentioned above, maybe one of the reasons it often seems the concept of "common courtesy" seems to be more lacking in comparison to the smaller towns in this country, well, MAYBE just a little of that could be contributed to there being more motorcycles, and thus more motorcyclists in those big cities running those obnoxiously loud exhausts, and thus causing more stress into that environment.

(that last part is just a "sociological theory" there you understand, ol' buddy)

And so, in closing, I still stand by my above stated "credo" of: A "Moderation In All Things" philosophy not only will usually make your life more livable, BUT it ALSO usually makes for some of the best soundin' motorcycles you'll ever hear.

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Keith
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Re: Noise [Re: Dwight2]
      #455923 - 06/09/10 11:50 PM

I appreciate a 'nice sound.' The tumble of a creek, the wind in my ear, the chirp of a chickadee. The hypnotic churn of a diesel running, the overtone of a propeller slicing, the guttural throb of a twin engine passing. But cha know... that creek can get mighty overpowering, the wind deafening, and sometimes I just want those friggin' chickadees to 'f' off. I like things in moderation... even moderators in moderation!! And yet alternatively, an excessive amount of riding can be quite and rather liberating!!

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Re: Noise [Re: newt]
      #455925 - 06/10/10 02:13 AM

There has been a few nights that I've been woken up by a LOUD bike, then spent the next hour trying to fall back to sleep. Yep, he only took a second to go by! There is a place and time for every thing.

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