Dwight
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unfortunatley it aint one country,its th fekin european union that passes all these stupid rules on to everbody else,all in th name of health n safety.arse.
"Fekin European Union" - I think you got that right - F-E-U-dalism.
Disclaimer: This was not an attempt at a political post but an apt description to a tendency that seems to replicate patterns from medieval times.
I just love history too. 
Ah the joys of European integration. Funny how even the "Totalitarians" of European history were much less invasive than the bureaucrats of Brussels.
Yeah, maybe so Larry, but maybe the good thing here is that there doesn't seem to be any Dachaus, Treblinkas or Auschwitzes bein' run by any ["I vas jus' following orders"] burcracrats THIS time around. 
Now THOSE were what one "might" call more than a little "invasive" for "a few" folks...like maybe 6 milliion folks, by some estimates!
(...yep, like Thanassis, I know MY History, TOO!!!!!)
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Bedouin
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... bein' run by any ["I vas jus' following orders"] burcracrats THIS time around.
The modern version is "I am just covering my ass and creating BS legislation just to appear to be doing something and justify my job".
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... one "might" call more than a little "invasive" for "a few" folks...like maybe 6 milliion folks, by some estimates!
And that was just the Jewish people.
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ladisney
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The point is that there will soon be nothing the bureaucrats will not control. Here in the US they have banned incandescent light bulbs, decent flush toilets, smoking in bars, spanking your own kids and a million other things. In Europe bureaucrats have injected themselves into everything, without even the bothering to have elections to get a mandate. Nothing is too small or too personal to escape their grasping attention. By the time most people realize they have lost all their choices to the whims of busy body bureaucrats and nanny state politicians we really will be living in a totalitarian regime.
CS Lewis said best: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
Everyone has the right to be foolish. As soon as we take that away we will all have to behave according to someone else's definition of sensible. Who would YOU trust to make those decisions. In Europe that self appointed army is headquartered in Brussels. Here in the US they are mainly in Washington and, as CS Lewis said, they never stop.
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ladisney
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That's right Dwight. This time it's a softer gentler tyranny. They won't kill you. they'll just regulate your entire life. All for your own good of course.
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The_Dog33
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I have always said I like no smoking in public places but I don't like the gov't forcing that. I feel something like that should be up to the OWNER of the property. That is just a specific example of a much larger problem. Always burned me up that I own property but have to pay rent(tax) on it to the gov't to keep it.If I don't pay they take what I OWN. Doesn't sound much like ownership to me. I could go on but I have to go to work! 
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FCTush
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That's right Dwight. This time it's a softer gentler tyranny. They won't kill you. they'll just regulate your entire life. All for your own good of course.
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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Dwight
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Hey! Now THAT'S pretty well stated there, Mike! 
But c'mon, fess up...didn't the ghost of Tom Jefferson help out just a little with your thoughts here???  
(...btw, this reminds me of when I was the Boarding Gate Supervisor for NWA at LAX...July 4th was usually pretty dead, and so for a couple of years on that date I'd run a little contest at the gates where I'd announce to the customers that I'd upgrade to First Class the first person who could walk up to me and recite the first line of the Declaration of Independence, and every year it wasn't UNTIL about the TENTH soul who'd walk up and DIDN'T say "We The People" and who actually knew it was "When in the course of human events"....yep, we's done got ourselves one really good edumacational system in this here country, don't we?!)
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The_Dog33
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Who is Tom Jefferson? he a member here?
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FriarJohn
"Lighten up, Francis."
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Loc: East Helena, Montana
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I denied his registration. 
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Dwight
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I denied his registration.
Yeah Ian, we'll have NONE of that "pursuit of happiness" crap around HERE, boy!!!!
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