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Thensley
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MC Accident Causation Study
      #530621 - 09/04/11 11:39 AM

Fairly old study that I don't recall seeing before. Some findings are intuitive and some not so much so, in fact a bit surprising. Caution, requires a bit of reading for just the summary on this web page.

http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr/hurt.html

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Bucky
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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: Thensley]
      #530670 - 09/04/11 07:11 PM

That's the "Hurt Report". It helped shape training curriculum after publication.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurt_Report


Due in large part to the extreme increase in frequency of US motorcycle fatalities since the Hurt Report was published, a new study, begun in 2009, is underway at Oklahoma State University.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/research/tfhrc/projects/safety/motorcycles/MCCS/links.cfm

Apparently it may take a matter of years to conclude and publish. They want to dig in pretty deeply to go beyond who is at fault to include causation if possible. One source figured a cost of $7500 per accident to complete the study.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nti/pdf/811280.pdf


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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: Bucky]
      #532012 - 09/13/11 02:29 AM

Here, let me save them a lot of time and money...

CAGERS ON CELL PHONES!!!!!!!!

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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: SSGRex]
      #532640 - 09/18/11 12:31 AM

A very old man pulled out in front of me yesterday. No cell phone involved. I understand that cell phone usage causes a lot of wrecks (I dont like to call them accidents). I don't think they they should be banned though. I think the penalty should be higher. Like maybe a $30,000.00 fine for being at fault while using a cell.

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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: locopony]
      #532708 - 09/18/11 07:54 PM

"Very old man" NOW that brings up another topic on age limits..

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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: JasonSonOfEd]
      #532732 - 09/19/11 07:07 AM

We don't need more restrictions. Just heavy penalties for destroying another persons property and life.

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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: locopony]
      #532798 - 09/19/11 10:16 PM

I agree...without getting on a soapbox and violating the AUP, I'm against adding more laws about anything.
But I'd certainly support vehicular manslaughter/assault charges for persons causing a crash while using a cell phone.

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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: locopony]
      #532799 - 09/19/11 10:18 PM

Quote:

A very old man pulled out in front of me yesterday.



If you happened to be up in Killeen for some reason, it was probably my father-in-law.

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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: Thensley]
      #532808 - 09/20/11 04:54 AM

I'll always remember a time when a friend's mother was giving several of us a ride home from school on a rainy day. She pulled out from a stop sigh in front of a VW. My friend said, "Mom, there's a car coming!" Without looking, she said, "Oh, I can't see small cars." Obviously, she did see it or she would not have known the size. This, I suspect, is the cause of a lot of cage/bike accidents, damn idiot thinks, "Hmph, motorcycle. Can't see those." and turns anyway.

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Re: MC Accident Causation Study [Re: Greybeard]
      #532887 - 09/20/11 02:47 PM

Or they think "Can't hurt me"

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