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gilligan
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Re: Zmilins build *more is better right* [Re: Zmilin]
      #553555 - 03/24/12 07:30 AM

I wish I had done the 865 high compression kit when I had the cam replaced but I was trying to keep th total cost down. So I think it will all work out for you despite having to spend more money thay you originally planned. Once you get it all back together I think it's gonna be a pretty strong motor. If you later decide to go big bore, it will be stronger still.

I'm still real happy with the 813 cams, exactly what the 865 motors need to produce good power.


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Zmilin
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Reged: 03/02/07
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Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Zmilin]
      #555310 - 04/07/12 09:06 PM

Got news today that my cylinder head will be on its way back to me on Tuesday... this makes Z a happy man! Ill be putting together my motor at the end of the week and hopefully breaking it in over the weekend.

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07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq


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Conwy
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Reged: 05/21/07
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Loc: Kent, WA, USA
Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Zmilin]
      #555313 - 04/07/12 09:22 PM

Hopefully next weekend will be as great (weather wise) as this one is. Had a great ride today and looking forward to another tomorrow!
Good luck Z and hope to see you & Karen out riding somewhere soon !

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Blue/White 2007 TBA, Thruxton needles, Unifilter, AI removed, Polaris Bellmouth, Bubs, Nology Coils/wires, Lightbar, Ricor Intiminators, Hagon Nitros, Tall Sissy Bar w/luggage rack, Dart flyscreen & Lowers. 130 Mains.


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Zmilin
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Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Zmilin]
      #555968 - 04/13/12 10:15 AM

Head arrived today...
33mm intake (+2), 26mm exhaust (OE size as recommended by TPUSA for my ultimate goal).


Port matched intakes


More air in


More used air out


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07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq


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Zmilin
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Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Zmilin]
      #556009 - 04/13/12 03:45 PM

Jugs are on. TPUSA High Compression pistons are in.
Lesson learned here... make sure your rods are in the highest possible position.


Head is on.


Cam chain is on, crank and cam drive gear are aligned, everything rotates freely with no interference from pesky valves this time


Carbs (FCR 39mm) are on, filters are on, engine mounts on, oil lines are connected, and everything is toured to spec.
These carbs are not easy to get on. The OEM cables needed to be bent for clearance as they are much higher now. Its not shaping back like it should so Ill investigate more later and maybe need to order new cables.
Tip for getting them on....
Mount the intake manifolds to the head first.
Get the carbs in place and everything connected.
Then get the rubber boots on starting with the interior bolts (snug), rotating the rubber boot and get those bolts in tight, then go back and tighten the other bolt. I use low clearance bits and 1/4 open end for this.


The motor spins freely and its time to do valve calculations so I can get down to the shop tomorrow morning and get some shims.
I used the shims I had previously calculated (except for the bent valve locations) and they are now too tight. Im going to need to go back, pull the cams and use the thinnest shims I have on hand in hopes of getting some clearance. If not its going to be a back and forth kind of day tomorrow between home and the Triumph shop.

Edited by Zmilin (04/13/12 03:55 PM)


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Gregger
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Reged: 04/07/07
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Loc: Timmins, Ontario
Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Zmilin]
      #556027 - 04/13/12 05:57 PM

Looking great Z. Love the pics. Did you have any issues with the cam chain tensioner?

Did the intake manifolds come with the carbs? If you use them can you still use the air box with the FCRs or do you need to switch to pods?

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69 BSA Firebird Scrambler
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Zmilin
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Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Gregger]
      #556028 - 04/13/12 06:02 PM

Quote:

Looking great Z. Love the pics. Did you have any issues with the cam chain tensioner?

Did the intake manifolds come with the carbs? If you use them can you still use the air box with the FCRs or do you need to switch to pods?




No issues with the chain tensioner. I expected to have some but I guess I was so concerned about it that it decided to go smooth as butter for me.
Manifolds do come with the carbs unless you request otherwise.
No, you can not use the air box with the FCRs so a switch to pods is necessary. The carbs came with Uni filters as well as velocity stacks for some reason. Theres a nice carb brace included as well, though I haven't figured out how to use it yet.

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07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq


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Dwight
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Reged: 02/03/05
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Loc: Sedona, Arizona
Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Zmilin]
      #556058 - 04/13/12 09:18 PM

Lookin' REALLY good there, Z!

And, I especially love the look of those carbs!

(...can't wait to hear how you like the finished product...ya think you'll have that baby on the road in a few days?)

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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)


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Zmilin
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Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Dwight]
      #556069 - 04/13/12 10:45 PM

Quote:

Lookin' REALLY good there, Z!

And, I especially love the look of those carbs!

(...can't wait to hear how you like the finished product...ya think you'll have that baby on the road in a few days?)




"a few days"... I plan on having her broken in by end of the weekend! Heck, maybe by end of Sat if I can get the valves figured out. Dang.. they are tight!

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07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq


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Keith
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Re: Zmilins build (getting back on track) [Re: Zmilin]
      #556073 - 04/14/12 12:22 AM

Just great, Z! As usual your attention to detail is impeccable. Thanks for taking us with you on this rather ambitious undertaking. Can hardly wait to hear about how she purrs after the build!

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