erle
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Yea, I don't care too much WHERE it's built, as long as it's built to good standards. 
If the outsourcing for cheaper labor let's ME buy it for less, then my left over money goes to more/other goods. (from America or where ever) 
When manufacturers make more profit, they pay more taxes. 
IF other countries do better, then MAYBE my government can keep more of our "support funds" here in America. 
IF other countries people earn a little bit more, and live just a little bit better, humanity wins. 
When any countries people make more money, they buy more. (SOME possibly even imported from America) 
One thing IS for sure, even if some sacrifices must be made, WE ARE GLOBAL! 
What goes around, comes around! 
Time the world starts thinking as Earthlings, and not by ethnic groups. 
Idealist! What you talkin' 'bout Willis!? 
Peace!
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erle
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outerbanks
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You cant be serious. I gave you an example of an outsource built bike vs an American built bike of equal displacement. $300 cheaper to the buyer. Big deal, you spend more on transport and setup.
Quick lesson in economics for you: The market sets the price, outsourcing is simply a cheat to increase profit margin for corporate executives.
You really need to do some research into the reality of the situation. In recient years look at how corporate executive pay has become obscene at the same rate of domestic job elimination. Personally I would prefer for my purchase to benifit thousands of working class Americans (or British) vs stuffing the pockets of a handfull of executives that outsource production to "emerging countries" for cheap labor and to get around enviromental and safety regulations.
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erle
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arstaren
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Personally I would prefer for my purchase to benifit thousands of working class Americans (or British) vs stuffing the pockets of a handfull of executives that outsource production to "emerging countries" for cheap labor and to get around enviromental and safety regulations.
Well said. It seems to be inevitable that third world countries are going to be bigger players and make more money. But here's the thing. I am for raising the standard of living for third world contries. But does that mean that OUR standard of living has to degenerate to make that happen? If Triumph could make the bikes in England, and turn a good profit, that's what they should have stayed with. Companies are no longer satisfied with making a handsome profit. They have to make a KILLING, or they take their business elsewhere. I'm glad my 02 America is made (for the most part) with British hands. And if Harley can keep MAJOR production in the U.S., my hat's off to them.
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satxron
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I just realized something. If you guys get to fighting and get out of control who breaks it up?
No more chill out warnings 
I won't buy a Thailand bike either. I just think of the British worker that isn't because there is no need for them.
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erle
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Your right. I took the low road, time to turn around and take the high road. I beleive in what I said, as ya'll beleive in what ya'll do, but now ain't the time to start sh1t. Peace.
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arstaren
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Your right. I took the low road, time to turn around and take the high road. I beleive in what I said, as ya'll beleive in what ya'll do, but now ain't the time to start sh1t. Peace.
We're cool. Just exchanging points of view. And I figure John is still looking over my shoulder. And chuckling. He'll be doing that for as long as we exist on here.
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Dwight
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I just realized something. If you guys get to fighting and get out of control who breaks it up?
No more chill out warnings 
Don't worry too much about this, Ron. Ya see, in more than a few PM's to me over the years, Friar John would thank me for bein', as he would say, "his Rodeo Clown". By that he meant that I'd see where a discussion might be gettin' a bit heated, often topics which someone would start out by just BARELY being this side of the A.U.P.s around here, and so I'd take it upon myself to kinda side-track the sucker a little usin' my brand of humor(WITH or WITHOUT that superfluous letter "U" in that word) and attempt to lower the tenor of the discussion to a more rational level, SO THAT John wouldn't have to lock the thing up, which he always HATED to do to threads.
And soooooo, as I was sayin' here Ron ol' buddy, you won't have to worry too much about this 'cause EVEN THOUGH John has now gone on to his reward, I'LL STILL be doin' my freakin' "Rodeo Clown" act for HIM even though moe, chy and Wojo are NOW in charge!
(...and THEY better freakin' appreciate my "Rodeo Clown" act TOO from here on out, or THEY can just SHOVE IT!!!!!) 
-------------------- Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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oldroadie
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Just keep in mind Dwight that the Rodeo Clown has little to do unless there is an out of control bull involved. Lots of bull here so you'll be busy :-)
-------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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