Keith
Stickman Yogi
Reged: 03/21/09
Posts: 11611
Loc: BC, Canada
|
|
Very respectable numbers. Nice going, Z! 
--------------------
Live to love, love to live.
|
Zmilin
Saddle Sore
Reged: 03/02/07
Posts: 5109
Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
|
|
Dave,
I thought redline was at 8k but after this it looks like its 8.5k.
ok... heres one of the other runs in a format we are all a bit more used to seeing.
Hp on the left, Tourqe on the right. RPM at the bottom. SAE at 4 (makes the lines look smoother).
They said they didn't stab the throttle on this run, more of a roll on to WOT.
I really like that torque line. It gets there and stays there across the run. Funny... on the short ride home this evening I was thinking that it felt more consistent.
Anyway... more eye candy for you all...
--------------------
07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
|
Zmilin
Saddle Sore
Reged: 03/02/07
Posts: 5109
Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
|
|
Heres the chart showing run 12 and 13 (the one I posted above).
In run 12 they did a stab to WOT and the a/f curve was all over the place till about 4500rpm. They said it was due to those carbs sucking in so much air initially. At first I thought BS but the more I think about it the more Im convincing myself that it makes sense. I mean how often am I going to be stabbing the throttle to WOT from a dead stop!... right 
Im wondering how this will translate to real world riding. This is also the run that makes me want to install one of the Innovative Motorsports systems to monitor the a/f during real works riding. Ugggg... the idea of spending more money right now makes me ill.
--------------------
07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
|
Zmilin
Saddle Sore
Reged: 03/02/07
Posts: 5109
Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
|
|
ok... Ive made a modification to the title of this portion of the thread. I changed the HP to 82 because its more accurate and consistent. Of the 13 runs they did only one made it to 83 Hp.
I rode a bit yesterday and a bit today. I have not had the opportunity to get it out for more than 50 miles at a time.
Initial impressions are as follows:
- Im glad I wear a full face otherwise everyone would see the stupid grin on my face. Seriously, no exaggeration, Im grinning ear to ear even when Im hang on for dear life.
- The sound is deeper. More pronounced and seems to be less "twangy" out of the pipes.
- I hate to admit it but when I really get on it its intimidating. Im getting used to it but none the less, its a lot more bike than I had before. Id also be lying If I didn't admit that the first time I really got on it that it dint scare the snot outta me. I simply didn't expect it to be like this. I had an idea due to the one time during break in that I got it up there but I partially dismissed that to being giddy. 
Now something really interesting...
- I thought I had an issue between 1st and 2nd. It felt like it was bogging after shifting into 2nd. I did some more runs today (a combo of roll on and WOT) and figured out what was happening...
-- The torque comes in close to 3k and stays there (within a couple ft/lbs) all the way to redline. For as awesome as that is it creates a situation... Normally we can feel the need to shift the bike because we feel the power drop off. Our brains tell us its time to shift at that point. Most of us do this even if we have a tach... we don't really look at it and the tach is really only a security blanket or a tool to help us know where our idle is and maybe at what RPM we are at when we balance carbs.
Imagine taking away the power drop off and having an odd angle view to the tach (sorry if you never noticed that because you will from this point forward). You know what happens... YOU HIT THE REV LIMITER ... a lot and it makes your bike cut out when you do that and THAT makes you think that your bogging down in the next gear. The very moment you realize that your power is so dang consistent all the way to redline and that you may actually need a shift light is when your grin tries to get bigger than your face can handle and your cheeks hurt. :fat grin:
There has been some inquiries about how smooth the bike really runs at idle with the carbs and cams... silk! Like silk! I might even go out on a limb and say it runs smoother than it did before. Ill get this on video as well.
How easy is it to start with no choke... pfft! Who needs a choke! I believe I described this in a previous post but its even easier now that the carbs seem to be right. Of course the weather has warmed up so I can't tell you how easy it is to cold start it but Ill let you know when it gets cold again in a few months.
I can go on and on and on but I won't. I have decided that its ok to brag a bit so Im going to do that for a while and not feel guilty about it, not one bit.
--------------------
07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
|
Grzegorz
Freelance Jedi Knight
Reged: 09/03/05
Posts: 3582
Loc: Poland-Gdansk!!! UK-Oadby
|
|
Quote:
I mean how often am I going to be stabbing the throttle to WOT from a dead stop!... right
often  just for fun factor 
--------------------
Grzegorz ......55 cubic inches 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25172906@N06/ 904 Wiseco,813 TPUSA cams,TTP ignitor,gutted airbox,"breath" air intake,Keihin CR-S carbs,Black Epco exhaust,SS wheels
|
Zmilin
Saddle Sore
Reged: 03/02/07
Posts: 5109
Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
|
|
So the next step will be a brake upgrade.
After riding this weekend I came to a rather inconvenient realization that my current brake set up will not do, especially if Im hot rodding the bike around like I seem to be doing.
Keep in mind Im a larger guy (300#+) so the bike has a bit more stopping to do when it needs to slow me down...especially at speed.
When the bike was stock I went with better EBC pads. That did the trick.
I did some typical mods (pipes, Freak) and the above set up was ok but adding the EBC floating root was the ticket for sure.
Now the bike has some serious go power and needs some better stopping power. If Im riding normally its ok but since the bike has a tendency to get moving a lot faster and seems to be at a faster speed (I wonder how that happened all of a sudden) I will not be able to stop the way I want.
So after a conversation with Carlos today I learned that the America caliper and Bonny calipers seems to be the same. (damn, just remembered I forgot to ask him something). This means the Beringer calipers (4pot or 6pot) are a direct swap. Good news.
An upgrade to one of the above is good but to get the real performance out of them requires a master cylinder with a bigger diameter valve. Damn... I had forgot about that part of the equation!
The brakes (pun intended) are on this portion of the project for a coupe weeks at which time I will be ordering up a nice 6pot caliper and R3 m/c. Maybe even a new rotor just to be safe. Not sure yet.
Why the 6pot... cause Im still in the market for a 994 BB next year and if I do that I will need the 6pot then so I may as well do it now.
I know I could have waited for all this but what the heck... I like baiting you all along
--------------------
07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
|
B02S4
Learned Hand
Reged: 02/28/08
Posts: 1542
Loc: USA
|
|
Stop it. 
|
Zmilin
Saddle Sore
Reged: 03/02/07
Posts: 5109
Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
|
|
Quote:
Stop it.
I was feeling bad about stopping short on this conversation.
--------------------
07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
|
Zmilin
Saddle Sore
Reged: 03/02/07
Posts: 5109
Loc: Sammamish, Washington - USA
|
|
Order officially placed today... 
Quote:
So the next step will be a brake upgrade.
After riding this weekend I came to a rather inconvenient realization that my current brake set up will not do, especially if Im hot rodding the bike around like I seem to be doing.
Keep in mind Im a larger guy (300#+) so the bike has a bit more stopping to do when it needs to slow me down...especially at speed.
When the bike was stock I went with better EBC pads. That did the trick.
I did some typical mods (pipes, Freak) and the above set up was ok but adding the EBC floating root was the ticket for sure.
Now the bike has some serious go power and needs some better stopping power. If Im riding normally its ok but since the bike has a tendency to get moving a lot faster and seems to be at a faster speed (I wonder how that happened all of a sudden) I will not be able to stop the way I want.
So after a conversation with Carlos today I learned that the America caliper and Bonny calipers seems to be the same. (damn, just remembered I forgot to ask him something). This means the Beringer calipers (4pot or 6pot) are a direct swap. Good news.
An upgrade to one of the above is good but to get the real performance out of them requires a master cylinder with a bigger diameter valve. Damn... I had forgot about that part of the equation!
The brakes (pun intended) are on for this portion of the project for a couple weeks at which time I will be ordering up a nice 6pot caliper and R3 m/c. Maybe even a new rotor just to be safe. Not sure yet.
Why the 6pot... cause Im still in the market for a 994 BB next year and if I do that I will need the 6pot then so I may as well do it now.
I know I could have waited for all this but what the heck... I like baiting you all along
--------------------
07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
|
chuckyj
3/4 Throttle
Reged: 10/12/07
Posts: 901
Loc: Mohawk, NY
|
|
After looking at Baringer web site it got me thinking. If our bikes use a H12a and most Honda's use a H12a and the Honda's that use a H11a use the same disk but come with a 4 pot from the factory. I wounder what the difference in mounting is.
--------------------
Life need a little Triumph!
2008 Triumph Speedmaster, Single baffle drag pipes, lots of black powder coating, uni filter, AI removed, Bobbed rear fender, bar end mirrors, drilled air box, and TBS needles.
|
Previous
Index
Next
Threaded
Edit
Reply
Quote
