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Captain_Midnight
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Header Wrap
      #562603 - 05/29/12 09:10 AM

I wrapped my headers last month and now I've noticed that once the bike is fully warmed up the idle speed jumps around. I'm guessing that means I need to adjust my A/F ratio. Does that sound like I need more air or more fuel?

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B02S4
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: Captain_Midnight]
      #562611 - 05/29/12 09:50 AM

Yes.

Seriously, how about a few more details?


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steve0suprem0
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: B02S4]
      #562616 - 05/29/12 10:01 AM

i can't imagine that having anything to do with the wrap. what else have you done?

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edmspeedmaster
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: steve0suprem0]
      #562643 - 05/29/12 02:35 PM

wrap not a great idea if your pipes are nice, if not then i guess its an option. Can change the tune, allot more scavenging going on and could lien out the engine. As mentioned though more info, headers wrpped, pipe, both? any other mods, filters, re-jetted? When you say bounce around, 100rpm 500 rpm? does it do this when you are only in idle or while riding? I am surely not the pro in here but those that are will want to know in order to better help you. PS.....i have seen header pipe turn nice pipes into mush in less then 18 months....... just saying :-)

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Edited by edmspeedmaster (05/29/12 02:36 PM)


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Captain_Midnight
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: edmspeedmaster]
      #562696 - 05/29/12 09:32 PM

Well the wrap's already on. The pipes were scratched up and blued and I wanted to black them out so I wrapped them. Just the headers. I did no other mods. The bike acts exactly as it did pre wrap except the idle fluctuates by about 250 rpms. This is the first I've ever heard of header wrap destroying pipes. I have the same header wrap on my 79 Ironhead and it's been on there for 10+ years with no issues. The idle will drop by about 250 rpms then cycle back up, but only when the bike is hot.

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Zmilin
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: Captain_Midnight]
      #562697 - 05/29/12 10:00 PM

Did it start doing that immediately after you wrapped them or was it a few days later?
Im thinking coincidence unless you were yanking on the header pipes with force and maybe broke the seal at the exhaust port but then that would make it louder and probably show soot where the leak is.

Your not running an air box right? Just K&Ns.

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steve0suprem0
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: Zmilin]
      #562703 - 05/30/12 12:31 AM

High five on the iron head. From what I undestand, wrap only rusts pipes if they get wet without the chance to boil the moisture out. God knows what those iron head's pipes look like. Anyway, I think big Z is right: it sounds like you probably have a leak.

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duck
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: steve0suprem0]
      #562709 - 05/30/12 04:34 AM

I have had wrap on my headers for a couple of years now and have had no problems with it all

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SDKimo
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: duck]
      #562730 - 05/30/12 08:23 AM

Now that you posted this, my idle jumps around (I have wrapped pipes)...guess I never noticed it...

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mikemm03
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Re: Header Wrap [Re: SDKimo]
      #562731 - 05/30/12 08:41 AM

Keep talkin it up gentlemen, my idle jumps around as well and I do not have header wrap

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