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tinmantwo
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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: BillyIndiana]
      #663201 - 12/15/16 02:54 AM

It's really a new day when a Harley is the least expensive of the premium models out there. I guess when you make the same basic bike for 20 years the cost goes down. I like the Octane and the Scout,have not yet seen the Goose or Bobber in person.

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Funkletrumpet
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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: BillyIndiana]
      #663202 - 12/15/16 04:08 AM

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They did sell me a bike though.



They'd make a killing if they put a fraction of the effort that they put into new model launches and accessories into their dealerships and into keeping customers happy.
Maybe don't treat their dealers like crap, after all, they're only selling the damn things ...

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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: Funkletrumpet]
      #663203 - 12/15/16 09:13 AM

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•Yamaha XV950 (Bolt) - £7199...




I personally don't see the Bolt as competition for anything other than a Harley Davidson Iron...


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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: B02S4]
      #663206 - 12/15/16 01:19 PM

The Bolt is just a poor copy of an 883 Iron, Now the new Yamaha Scrambler is appealing. I know it's basicly the same bike but I just don't like Clones of anything. One of my favorite little sayings is, I'd rather wear a Timex than a fake Rolex. I feel the same about the old Yami 650's that are so hot on the used market, If you want a Triumph, buy one, not a Jap trying to be a Triumph.

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tinmantwo
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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: Funkletrumpet]
      #663208 - 12/15/16 01:25 PM

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They did sell me a bike though.



They'd make a killing if they put a fraction of the effort that they put into new model launches and accessories into their dealerships and into keeping customers happy.
Maybe don't treat their dealers like crap, after all, they're only selling the damn things ...


,,,, My local H.D. dealer treats their customers like Royalty, I just think Harley needs to put more effert in product not marketing, besides there are just to many Harley's out there I'm sick of looking at them allready.

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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: tinmantwo]
      #663211 - 12/15/16 02:26 PM

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besides there are just to many Harley's out there I'm sick of looking at them allready.


. I say the more Harley's the better. It makes me and my Triumph that much more exclusive and unique.

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BillyIndiana
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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: PES]
      #663213 - 12/15/16 05:45 PM

Here is the pricing from Windy City Triumph.

Jet Black- $11,900
Morello Red or Ironstone- $12,150
Competition Green/Frozen Silver two tone- $12,400

And I love my Timex.

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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: BillyIndiana]
      #663226 - 12/16/16 12:09 PM

I have to reluctantly agree about Triumph service. When I go into a Harley shop I'm greeted, offered a coffee and served by enthusiastic knowledgeable people.
Triumph could learn from this.
On the other hand HD seems to operate the following pricing scales.....
£3
£30
£300
£3000...

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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: tinmantwo]
      #663363 - 12/25/16 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Quote:

They did sell me a bike though.



They'd make a killing if they put a fraction of the effort that they put into new model launches and accessories into their dealerships and into keeping customers happy.
Maybe don't treat their dealers like crap, after all, they're only selling the damn things ...


,,,, My local H.D. dealer treats their customers like Royalty, I just think Harley needs to put more effert in product not marketing, besides there are just to many Harley's out there I'm sick of looking at them allready.




Look at it from Harley's perspective for a change. Every Jap and many European motorcycle companies embrace the latest ultra high tech trend and some even compete in high end road racing to prove their 200 mile per hour bikes are the best. Cool. Meanwhile Harley Davidson has intentionally gone in the opposite direction and it has made them the undisputed leader in the American motorcycle market. Further they are selling the most profitable type of motorcycle in the most profitable market. In short since Willie and the boys bought the company back in the early 1980's they went from last to first in the market. So...why copy what the companies they defeated are doing? For bragging rights that their bike won the Isle Of Mann TT one year? Not worth it. Does it translate to sales/profit? Not really. So some kid who has never been on a race track buys a Honda 1000RR that he honestly can't legally ride near it's potential on the street. The bike is cramped, uncomfortable and high strung but he has bragging rights and that's what's important...right? Do you drive an F-1 car on the street every day? No. In the real world on the road there is value to riding a big old comfortable cruiser rolling 65mph at only 2400 rpm all day that looks cool and has outstanding fit, finish, paint and chrome with a dealer in every town to take care of you.

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Re: 'Brutal Beauty' bobber [Re: outerbanks]
      #663367 - 12/25/16 09:57 PM

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....In the real world on the road there is value to riding a big old comfortable cruiser rolling 65mph at only 2400 rpm all day that looks cool and has outstanding fit, finish, paint and chrome with a dealer in every town to take care of you.




Yep OB, but doesn't this all depend upon what KIND of "real world road" you're talkin' about here?!

I mean sure, I gotta admit whenever I'm passin' one or often a bunch of those H-Ds riders on some TWISTY mountain road around here in northern Arizona while ridin' my BA, I DO occasionally think to myself how "comfortable" those fellas look on their big "cool" lumbering machines, alright.

And of course as I come up on 'em and before passing 'em, I ALSO tend to notice they often wouldn't know the proper line to take through a curvy stretch of road if their lives depended upon it...and if ya THINK about this, one's life CAN "depend" upon knowing such a thing, ya know.

Yep, I can't tell ya how many times I've seen those "comfortable" and "cool" riders takin' an early apex into a turn, and then watch as they "go wide" and wallow over and across the double yellow at even MODERATE speeds. Why, it's almost as if they really don't know how to ride a motorcycle or somethin'?! Well, other than maybe "cruising" down some straight boring road, anyway.

And which of course always seems kind'a strange to me, 'cause as I pass 'em on those twisty roads, they in general appear not ONLY to be very "comfortable" and "cool", but ALSO tend to look about the same age I am and thus MUST have been ridin' motorcycles almost as long as I have.

(...that would be comin' up on 50 years now, btw)



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