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findlay13
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Ooops
      #662708 - 11/23/16 11:32 PM

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Re: Ooops [Re: findlay13]
      #662723 - 11/24/16 01:18 PM

Always suspected that it's not an entirely brilliant idea to mix electrickery and fuel anywhere other than in the cylinder.
Can't understand why every bike with an in tank pump doesn't just explode.

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Re: Ooops [Re: Alatamoc]
      #662726 - 11/24/16 04:36 PM

I'm with you, pretty much every new car and bike has a electric pump in the tank, I would think they would all explode at some time, yet nothing. I guess it's sort of like the old drop a match in a full bucket of gas trick, nothing happens.

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The_Dog33
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Re: Ooops [Re: tinmantwo]
      #662728 - 11/24/16 05:28 PM

Trouble is as the tank gets empty the pump is no longer submerged. Also very hard to service in a car, no reason not to have it located under the hood or on the frame under the car. Some used to mount them in both places.

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findlay13
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Re: Ooops [Re: The_Dog33]
      #662729 - 11/24/16 06:10 PM

I'm still trying to understand how gunpowder works never mind tall that snap,crackle, and pop electric stuff

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Re: Ooops [Re: The_Dog33]
      #662730 - 11/24/16 08:26 PM

Quote:

Trouble is as the tank gets empty the pump is no longer submerged. Also very hard to service in a car, no reason not to have it located under the hood or on the frame under the car. Some used to mount them in both places.


I'd like fifteen minutes alone in a room with the sob engineer that thought up the idea to put the gas pump in the tanks of cars and trucks.

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arstaren
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Re: Ooops [Re: arstaren]
      #662731 - 11/24/16 08:30 PM

and by the way, I learned of another brainiac practice on a modern car. A friend of mine bought a pretty nice used Cadilac for a song last week. It wouldn't start. Everybody thought it was the "smart" key, and they only had one. Turned out that the starter was bad. And get this, the starter is INSIDE the engine. You have to pull the intake manifold off to service it!

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findlay13
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Re: Ooops [Re: arstaren]
      #662732 - 11/24/16 10:22 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Trouble is as the tank gets empty the pump is no longer submerged. Also very hard to service in a car, no reason not to have it located under the hood or on the frame under the car. Some used to mount them in both places.


I'd like fifteen minutes alone in a room with the sob engineer that thought up the idea to put the gas pump in the tanks of cars and trucks.




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"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson

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Ryk
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Re: Ooops [Re: arstaren]
      #662733 - 11/24/16 11:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Trouble is as the tank gets empty the pump is no longer submerged. Also very hard to service in a car, no reason not to have it located under the hood or on the frame under the car. Some used to mount them in both places.


I'd like fifteen minutes alone in a room with the sob engineer that thought up the idea to put the gas pump in the tanks of cars and trucks.



It has to do with pump mechanical advantage, at first cars had a tank pump and a secondary high pressure pump as well, no more. Same reason many water wells have the pump all the way at the bottom of the casing, more efficient. Having changed a couple of shot out in the tank pumps, I can relate to the frustration. And why do they always seem to quit when the tank is completely full of fuel?


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The_Dog33
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Re: Ooops [Re: arstaren]
      #662734 - 11/25/16 03:19 AM

Quote:

and by the way, I learned of another brainiac practice on a modern car. A friend of mine bought a pretty nice used Cadilac for a song last week. It wouldn't start. Everybody thought it was the "smart" key, and they only had one. Turned out that the starter was bad. And get this, the starter is INSIDE the engine. You have to pull the intake manifold off to service it!




A very few are smart enough to put an access door for the pump in the floor of the trunk or under the back seat.

Fords like Taurus and Explorer you have to pull the intake to change the sparkplugs.

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