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mikemm03
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2018 Speedmaster
      #669652 - 08/28/17 04:49 AM

http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&a...3Boe%3D5A24E466

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #669653 - 08/28/17 05:48 AM

Very nice, the use of a softail maintains the golden triangle and makes for an excellent look.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: oldroadie]
      #669654 - 08/28/17 07:15 AM

I like it! I wonder if it would be fairly easy to swap out the wheels for cast ones, like the current Speedmasters.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: TriumphLance]
      #669661 - 08/28/17 08:33 AM

Pretty cool. Reminds of the originals a little except for the hardtail look. Maybe for sale next Spring??? Is a new America going to soon follow???

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #669662 - 08/28/17 08:58 AM

I'm curious to see how Triumph will market the new Speedmaster. Will it get the "Brutal Bobber" marketing tour, or the original Speedmaster/ America marketing of " oh yeah we also have a cruiser"

Pricing will also be interesting.
2016 list price for a Speemaster, $8,400 USD.
2017 list price for a Bobber, $ 11,900 USD.
This new speedy looks to be nothing more than a refined Bobber with chrome exhaust, different rear fender, seat and pillion seat. And hopefully a larger tank from the T120.
So are we looking at $12,900 / $13,400 price tag? Ouch

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #669665 - 08/28/17 10:14 AM

Well Mike isn't any bike just a some of all it's parts? I mean they derived the original TBA/Speedmaster from the standard Bonnevile. Tweaked the engine frame tank etc. Isn't that they are doing now? All these models are based on the new Bonneville line .

As for marketing I bet there's some flash and hype but I bet it won't be like the Bobber. That one was their baby and I guess has proved to be a big seller.

I agree w you price is going to be up there. Between 12-13 big ones. With all the derivatives of the New Bonneville out there, I don't think the Speedmaster will make near as big of a splash as the original TBA.


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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #669666 - 08/28/17 10:18 AM

Not a negative comment about the "refined Bobber".
I was merely pointing out the cost of the striped down Bobber in comparison to the previous Speedmaster and possible cost of the new one.

Also the early TBA was more than just the Bonnie dressed up. Different "crank", frame, wheels, tank, fenders, seats etc.


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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #669667 - 08/28/17 10:24 AM

Oh I know. We're just discussing this new Cruiser some people have been waiting for w a bigger engine. If some can get over the fact that everything is not going to be like the originals, I think they will be a hit. Might even have to change the little pics of the bikes at the site header.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #669671 - 08/28/17 12:45 PM

I like it. She looks beefy. That front end makes a great statement. Looks like a standard Bonneville tank.

Kinda reminds me of the T-Bird Adventure except for the larger front tire.

Bet they make a floorboard-windscreen version and call it America. Just my guess.

Since the cruiser class has it's own following another marketing tour with this and the new Rocket would be interesting.

One can hope.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: BillyIndiana]
      #669672 - 08/28/17 01:05 PM

like it too.I'm not a fan of white piping on seats and blacked out lower fork legs but that's just my opinion and minor details.I like the overall look of the bike.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #669673 - 08/28/17 01:10 PM

about time they got back to tanks with the knee indents and spoke wheels

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: roadworthy]
      #669674 - 08/28/17 01:36 PM

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about time they got back to tanks with the knee indents and spoke wheels




Let's hope it's not the Bobber tank @ 2.4 gallon......

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #669675 - 08/28/17 01:46 PM

Looks good for sure lets hope it can hold a decent amount of gas in tank.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Donny]
      #669676 - 08/28/17 02:02 PM

Like the tank and can tolerate the forks....don't want a softail...sorry, if you're taking cues from Meriden Triumph it's all T140v till you reach the saddle then suddenly it's 1954 again.
And what's the engine capacity please?Anyone know if it's 900 or 1200?

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #669679 - 08/28/17 03:22 PM

Wasn't the spy pic a 1200 Mike? The article w the pic said it was close to production so hopefully it will be the 1200. I got the impression there are going to be 2-3 variants. There could be an entry model 900 Cruiser too later on.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #669680 - 08/28/17 04:46 PM

At the base of the engine cylinders appear to be a (1200), on the Speedmaster spy pic.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #669684 - 08/28/17 06:41 PM

I like it from that angle but I wonder how bad that radiator looks from the front. Dual disc again I like, spokes I like. Short fat mufflers I do not like. Looks like knee indents again, like that. Not a fan of gaiters. I like the look of the fake monoblock carbs and points cover. Is there anything under that fake point cover? I like the plug on the sprocket cover like the old bikes tranny fill plug. I like the fake? exhaust clamps, I assume they bolt on like the last generation does. I would like longer fatter fenders, nicer looking mirrors. A tach would be nice too, looks like just a speedo. I think the steep price will hurt the bobber and any other off shoots of the Bonnie line. The $5,000 I paid for my SM is max of what I would ever pay for a bike. Thanks to Hermy for hooking me up with that deal! $5,000 only 700 miles on it and over a year warranty left on it.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #669689 - 08/28/17 09:26 PM

Quote:

Like the tank and can tolerate the forks....don't want a softail...sorry, if you're taking cues from Meriden Triumph it's all T140v till you reach the saddle then suddenly it's 1954 again.
And what's the engine capacity please?Anyone know if it's 900 or 1200?




I agree Al,I'd prefer twin shocks.I'd prefer a skinnier front wheel .Actually I'd prefer them just to stick that motor in a Speedmaster/America frame but that's not going to market them I guess.I'm still very interested.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #669693 - 08/29/17 05:44 AM

Every bike isn't going to have everything each person wants. Triumph I think, expect these new cruisers will be customized. Almost every Cruiser owner I know has done some mods. Usually starting w exhaust pipes. I read a review of the Bobber and they said it handles up to Triumph expectations despite having a mono shock. As far as the tire I think you probably could find a way to put a slimmer tire on there, Paul. I'm just glad they kept the SM name and hope they keep the America name on a different Cruiser. I'm not crazy about the idea of a 900 America though w that 1200 engine being available. I bet the next version won't be available for a year. I hate to wait since I have very little patience.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #669695 - 08/29/17 06:21 AM

It looks more like an America with the silver engine casings, spoke wheels and fat front tire. Handlebars are also more America'ish.

Engine is definitely the 1200. I'd prefer black engine casings.


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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #669696 - 08/29/17 06:33 AM

I like the fat front tire, I was wondering what diameter the wheel is. I was going to do a long front springer on the hardttail I am building but lately have been leaning to a short front springer with a 16" wheel and fat front tire and somewhere around 10" to 12" apes with a big round headlight maybe 8".

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #669742 - 08/31/17 04:25 AM

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...amp;oe=5A24E466

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #669755 - 08/31/17 01:30 PM

Quote:

Every bike isn't going to have everything each person wants. Triumph I think, expect these new cruisers will be customized. Almost every Cruiser owner I know has done some mods. Usually starting w exhaust pipes. I read a review of the Bobber and they said it handles up to Triumph expectations despite having a mono shock. As far as the tire I think you probably could find a way to put a slimmer tire on there, Paul. I'm just glad they kept the SM name and hope they keep the America name on a different Cruiser. I'm not crazy about the idea of a 900 America though w that 1200 engine being available. I bet the next version won't be available for a year. I hate to wait since I have very little patience.




Yes as I said Paul they're very minor nit-picks.Iagree about the 900-1200 and the fact it'll probably be another year coming but I'm very interested.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #669756 - 08/31/17 01:53 PM

The more I look at the "smuggled pic" if in fact that's what it really is. I see the same small tank that's on the Bobber. Same design, same gap from the tank to the seat. If that's the case it's a major flub IMO.

Look's like the rear fender/mud guard is off the T120 along with the grab rail. New rider and passenger seat. Chrome vs polished exhaust. Fatter front tire with dual disc and different bars and mirrors, along with forward foot controls.
Bobber to compare

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #669768 - 08/31/17 10:36 PM

I think the tank is bigger than the bobber.It looks like the old style with the indents America tank to me.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #669776 - 09/01/17 10:56 AM

No, it only has a gas cap on top, no dash or indent for one and not as wide at the front.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: The_Dog33]
      #669777 - 09/01/17 01:25 PM

Yes I see it now Ian.The cruising range wont be much with the Bobber tank.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #669778 - 09/01/17 01:28 PM

Quote:

The more I look at the "smuggled pic" if in fact that's what it really is. I see the same small tank that's on the Bobber. Same design, same gap from the tank to the seat. If that's the case it's a major flub IMO.

Look's like the rear fender/mud guard is off the T120 along with the grab rail. New rider and passenger seat. Chrome vs polished exhaust. Fatter front tire with dual disc and different bars and mirrors, along with forward foot controls.
Bobber to compare




I'm starting to wonder if this is a sort of mock-up to see what works,what doesn't.


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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #669779 - 09/01/17 01:57 PM

I would like to see a tach.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: The_Dog33]
      #670198 - 09/18/17 02:33 AM

https://youtu.be/mwsNonDf7Vg

Advertising crap but what interested me was the 3rd of October 2017 date.


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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670205 - 09/18/17 09:02 AM

That may be when it is introduced but I bet you won't be able to buy one until 2018.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670249 - 09/19/17 11:36 AM

Yep,Probably correct Paul.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670250 - 09/19/17 01:10 PM

Speedmaster to be announced either 3rd October or 1st November depending on your source.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #670266 - 09/20/17 02:07 AM

Yep

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670336 - 09/23/17 05:08 AM

It's a fat tire Bobber with forward controls and a back seat. Surprised everyone isn't in an uproar about the other bike Triumph has in the "spy" picture.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: outerbanks]
      #670338 - 09/23/17 06:01 AM

Quote:

It's a fat tire Bobber with forward controls and a back seat. Surprised everyone isn't in an uproar about the other bike Triumph has in the "spy" picture.




Pirated photo from a Chicago private showing. I'm sure it's nothing Triumph wanted released. Most likely a dealers back room. I imagine that individual will not have that opportunity in the future.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670339 - 09/23/17 06:25 AM

Quote:

Quote:

It's a fat tire Bobber with forward controls and a back seat. Surprised everyone isn't in an uproar about the other bike Triumph has in the "spy" picture.




Pirated photo from a Chicago private showing. I'm sure it's nothing Triumph wanted released. Most likely a dealers back room. I imagine that individual will not have that opportunity in the future.





come on Mike, you know those hackers get into people's phones all the time and release pics... I'm sure that's what happened here... hackers... yeah...

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: roadworthy]
      #670340 - 09/23/17 06:38 AM

Dual front disc brakes is about a must for me. I would like to see bigger pots, though.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Blackwind]
      #670343 - 09/23/17 09:10 AM

Did someone say, "Fresh Pots"???

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Calkins]
      #670345 - 09/23/17 09:34 AM

Funny, and unless I've overlooked someone here mentioning it already in this thread, but I'm somewhat surprised no one has yet mentioned or has complained about the fork rake not being more kicked out on this new Triumph cruiser model than it is over the standard new Bonneville models?

That aspect of our Americas and Speedmasters being one of the definitive distinctions between them and the previous generation of the standard Bonneville line.

And here I would've thought this aspect of the new bike would have been one of the very first things to have been noticed and commented upon and perhaps even complained about by this cruiser oriented crowd around here.

(...and of course, while the steeper rake of this new Speedmaster would allow it to be a quicker handler in the twisties than the ones owned by those of us around here, I've never gotten the impression that quick handling is all that important an issue with the majority of the BA.com membership)

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Dwight]
      #670348 - 09/23/17 10:59 AM

I think most of the people I ride w here care more about handling than a pushed out fork. But I agree with you in general Dwight that most cruiser owners care about the "look" rather than handling. IMO w the original America And SM we had both.


On another subject re the new Speedie, I have been kind of having a feud w a guy on the TBird forum about the new SM even really being a cruiser. I contend that a Bobber is more a sub category of a cruiser and thus if the new SM is based on it then it is a Cruiser too. He says no way in hell a Bobber is not a Cruiser and neither is the new speedie. He says Triumph or no one will call it a cruiser when in fact the article Mike found w the first spy shots are calling it the Triumph new cruiser line and hinting that there will be more than one.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670352 - 09/23/17 10:48 PM

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I think most of the people I ride w here care more about handling than a pushed out fork. But I agree with you in general Dwight that most cruiser owners care about the "look" rather than handling. IMO w the original America And SM we had both.




Yep Paul, I've said many times in the past that despite the 33 degree raked-out front ends on our bikes which precipitate slower turn-ins, they somehow do handle pretty well even in the twisties, and especially so given their "slower" steering geometry.

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On another subject re the new Speedie, I have been kind of having a feud w a guy on the TBird forum about the new SM even really being a cruiser. I contend that a Bobber is more a sub category of a cruiser and thus if the new SM is based on it then it is a Cruiser too. He says no way in hell a Bobber is not a Cruiser and neither is the new speedie. He says Triumph or no one will call it a cruiser when in fact the article Mike found w the first spy shots are calling it the Triumph new cruiser line and hinting that there will be more than one.




To some small degree Paul, I'll have to agree with the gentleman's opinion, as just from the pictures I've seen here of this new SM, in my opinion the only thing that really says "cruiser" about it to me are the forward mounted foot controls.



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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Dwight]
      #670357 - 09/24/17 08:22 AM

Reusing the Bobber frame for the Speedmaster saves Triumph a lot of money and a side benefit is an owner might be able to use the Bobber parts to install mid controls on the new Speedmaster...if that's what they prefer.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Dwight]
      #670370 - 09/24/17 09:04 PM

Yes Dwight the more I look the more I see a bobber with a dual seat set up.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670399 - 09/25/17 05:12 PM

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Yes Dwight the more I look the more I see a bobber with a dual seat set up.




And the more I look at it Paul, and probably because of its "softtail" rear end which mimics pre-swingarm hardtail Triumphs such as the original prewar 1938 Speed Twin and other immediate postwar Triumphs, the more it's reminding me of those, and what would've been designated back then as "roadsters". But, with the difference being those forward mounted foot controls on the new SM.

And which once again in my view, would be the ONLY thing about the new SM that would or could possibly define it with the more modern designation of "cruiser".

Overall though, I think its a damn good lookin' retro bike, and one which would and should be much more practical to own than the Bobber.

(...but I wouldn't be interested in owning one, and because I've found I don't like forward foot controls which necessitate the operator sitting on their tailbone...and thus the very reason some six or seven years ago now I designed and built mid-located foot pegs and controls and bolted them to my 2002 BA...I also feel more in control of my bike while "spiritedly" riding the twisties around here in Arizona without my feet sticking out forward)

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Dwight]
      #670408 - 09/25/17 09:24 PM

I agree the only thing I have forward controls for is my busted knee.I bought a Hyde footpeg relocation set awhile back and they move the controls back 4" on my model BA and 2" on the newer models.The position suited me and allowed a bit more control and"down low" cornering but the brackets bent. Supposedly because they had Triumph "T"s cut out of the middle of them.Hyde sent a set without the cut outs which supposedly fixes the bending [free of charge.] but I haven't used them yet.

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(...but I wouldn't be interested in owning one, and because I've found I don't like forward foot controls which necessitate the operator sitting on their tailbone...




And I'll bet you have about 11,000 other reasons not to buy a new Triumph!


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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: outerbanks]
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(...but I wouldn't be interested in owning one, and because I've found I don't like forward foot controls which necessitate the operator sitting on their tailbone...




And I'll bet you have about 11,000 other reasons not to buy a new Triumph!





Well, I suppose if ya wanna put it THAT way OB, then I'd probably have 12,000 "other reasons" why I'd not buy one of your beloved Harley-Davidsons.

And, it would start with the thought that they're as ubiquitous* an item as anything out there.

(*-ubiquitous: adjective-- commonplace ; omnipresent i.e. as in every other swingin' dick out there already owns one)



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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Dwight]
      #670601 - 10/03/17 12:10 PM

Here she is

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670602 - 10/03/17 12:24 PM

Only a 3.1 gallon tank??? WTF...

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      #670603 - 10/03/17 01:06 PM

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Only a 3.1 gallon tank??? WTF...




Same as the Street Twin, Bonnies are 3.8. Bobber is 2.4
These new twins get much better milage that the earlier bikes.

However 65 mpg claimed. So figure around 58 mpg on the road.
You'll need fuel in a 145 miles, that's long enough in the saddle for me. I'll need to whiz before that

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Calkins]
      #670604 - 10/03/17 01:33 PM

I'd need to test ride one but I rode a Kawasaki cruiser with a fat front tire like that and there was a fair amount of wheel "flop" doing slow turns.About 100miles is enough for me then a rest stop.I don't like beach bars but we'll see.I'm still wishing they'd just put the 1200cc motor in a bike styled like our BA/SM.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Calkins]
      #670605 - 10/03/17 01:40 PM

If it truly will get 65 mpg, then a three gallon tank should work. I rarely go farther than 120 miles without a stop.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: HabuBA]
      #670606 - 10/03/17 01:52 PM

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2...lUYnWZGRg3c-8vQ

This says they've adjusted the forks for the bigger tire so it handles as it should.
There's also a drawing on the bottom of this article with a blue one.I hope they bring this colour out.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670607 - 10/03/17 02:38 PM

Was looking at a review on Motorcycle.com posted 2 hours ago. Showed a lot of different pictures. I have to say I like it. I think Triumph did a good job NOT making it look like a Bobber. Offered in red also. The article said it would be in showrooms by Feb 2018.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2017/october/triumph-speedmaster-bobber-t120-2018/



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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670609 - 10/03/17 03:51 PM

I like it over all especially ribbed fenders but wish they were longer. Don't like the head light or exhaust but do like the chrome on the side of the head light like the old 50s nacelle. In general I do like it. I might even be persuded to buy one even with the radiator. I love the FI looking like the monoblock, very well done!

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: The_Dog33]
      #670611 - 10/03/17 05:07 PM

of all the clutch cover designs they could have modeled after, they went for the 70's style... not bad, but not my favorite. overall, I think it hit all the marks that we have been asking for all these years since they got rid of spokes and knee indents

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: roadworthy]
      #670613 - 10/03/17 05:18 PM

No plastic console, spokes, dual discs upfront, fat front tire, even retro eyebrow badges. I vote, Triumph is back on track to market a winner.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Ryk]
      #670614 - 10/03/17 06:55 PM

One pic I saw looks like it's sporting old style football type grips

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670615 - 10/03/17 07:15 PM

Yeah I saw that too. Then other pics showed the skinny ones. I wonder if they are Triumph accessories?

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670616 - 10/03/17 07:22 PM

Dang thing has cruise control

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670617 - 10/03/17 07:44 PM

I think so, saw a small diamond pattern solo seat, windscreen, etc..

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: The_Dog33]
      #670621 - 10/03/17 09:11 PM

Not bad looks decent.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Donny]
      #670624 - 10/04/17 12:23 AM

Not sure...I need to see more and see it for real.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #670625 - 10/04/17 01:15 AM

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Not sure...I need to see more and see it for real.







That engine is seductive though. Why couldn't they drop that into an America or old Speedmaster?Anyway it looks better than the bobber IMO.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670626 - 10/04/17 04:32 AM

My first impression is this is a home run. I will have to see it in person.

My only concern is they are wanting this to replace the America, Speedmaster, and T-Bird.

Not sure it will have the weight to be comfortable doing interstate miles. Right Paul.

1200cc water cooled should be plenty to push her down the road.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: BillyIndiana]
      #670628 - 10/04/17 05:25 AM

Overall it isn't bad. I'm still not thrilled with the 3.1 gallon tank but as long as it can make it at least 150 miles between fill ups it's acceptable. I don't care for the 16 inch rims at all. I would be curious to know if the 18 and 17 inch rims from the T120s would be a direct swap. I do like that they were able to keep the weight down close ours at 541 lbs. I personally want to wait and see what they do with the new America and Thunderbird models in the next couple of years.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: JD13]
      #670633 - 10/04/17 07:32 AM

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I personally want to wait and see what they do with the new America and Thunderbird models in the next couple of years.




The Thunderbird line is gone as of 2018. I highly doubt whether they will bring the America name back either.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: BillyIndiana]
      #670634 - 10/04/17 07:40 AM

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Not sure it will have the weight to be comfortable doing interstate miles. Right Paul.
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Well I have had 2 Tbirds since 2010 and have been spoiled w the highway ride especially w the Commander. I doubt if I would want to go back to a lighter bike for long distance touring.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670636 - 10/04/17 09:14 AM

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I personally want to wait and see what they do with the new America and Thunderbird models in the next couple of years.




The Thunderbird line is gone as of 2018. I highly doubt whether they will bring the America name back either.



You may be right on the America moniker. I know that the current version of the Thunderbird is done but I doubt that Triumph has no plans for another version, perhaps one with a larger/big bore or high output/Thruxton motor type cruiser version that will be more suitable to touring .

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670639 - 10/04/17 12:52 PM

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Not sure it will have the weight to be comfortable doing interstate miles. Right Paul.
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Well I have had 2 Tbirds since 2010 and have been spoiled w the highway ride especially w the Commander. I doubt if I would want to go back to a lighter bike for long distance touring.




I know what you mean....I also need a heavier bike....not sure why but they're just less stressed on long hard runs.....but for me I'd avoid the Thunderbird( everyone yawn at this point) .
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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #670643 - 10/04/17 03:28 PM

Lighter the better for me.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: The_Dog33]
      #670646 - 10/04/17 11:36 PM

Same here, not big on heavy bikes...I think they will bring out another america style version but whether it gets the same name who knows...I think the speedmaster makes a better bobber than the bobber..

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Peter_AU]
      #670648 - 10/05/17 01:05 AM

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2...Qy4Qq6SP6sHCD1F

I'm growing to like it.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670651 - 10/05/17 07:33 AM

I just noticed, no Freakin' LaserTechs on the front, 'bout time Triumph figured that one out.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Ryk]
      #670656 - 10/05/17 12:01 PM

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I just noticed, no Freakin' LaserTechs on the front, 'bout time Triumph figured that one out.




They were rubbish on my 2007

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670664 - 10/05/17 08:25 PM

I'm just thinking Triumph probably did good sales wise releasing the Bobber first.I think the speedmaster sales will outstrip the bobber.I could be wrong.I remember I was once.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670665 - 10/05/17 09:07 PM

The 2018 Speedy looks like it addressed most of the issues I had with the Bobber. Looking forward to a test ride.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: B02S4]
      #670668 - 10/06/17 05:41 AM

I stopped by my local dealer yesterday to get some parts and asked about the Speedmaster. I was told they probably wouldn't even get one unless they already had a buyer because the cruisers don't sell well

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: roadworthy]
      #670676 - 10/06/17 04:23 PM

Sounds like a line of bull to me. I'm bet they sell every Speedmaster they get their hands on.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670678 - 10/06/17 05:06 PM

My wife still wants a Gold Wing or Ultra Glide treatment on the pillion. Not happening for me.

I'm a bit underwhelmed by this new Speedmaster. Shorter wheelbase, smaller tank, a LOT less rake to the forks, less suspension travel...

Very nice, though, nonetheless. I trust Triumph knows what they're doing. They've been hitting home runs a lot lately.

This won't make me want to trade in either of my current Speedmasters, though. And that 2004 just keeps on going. Like a TIMEX never even thought about....

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670682 - 10/06/17 06:30 PM

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Yota]
      #670711 - 10/08/17 04:36 PM

I will have my speedmaster until it is not repairable anymore then it will sit in storeage.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: The_Dog33]
      #670721 - 10/09/17 12:31 AM

My America has a home for life but there's room in my garage for this speedmaster too.I'll see what eventuates.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670726 - 10/09/17 09:09 AM

Nope, sorry, I just can't warm to it.
I've tried but all I see is a bobber with a dual seat.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #670730 - 10/09/17 01:42 PM

I reserve judgement until I see it in person, but from the pictures I've seen I'd like it for a second bike to keep my Commander company in the garage.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670734 - 10/09/17 11:33 PM

Im trying to imagine my Beloveds response if I asked her to tour Scotland on the new Speedy ....whereas we happily did so on my TBA LT this year.
I'm afraid the new seats just look like they're a Triumph of styling over practicality.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Alatamoc]
      #670735 - 10/10/17 12:00 AM

I'm liking it.I would prefer twin shocks but,oh well.

There's always the touring seat available for the new speedmaster Al.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670833 - 10/20/17 10:06 AM

I pulled the trigger today and placed a deposit on the new 2018 Speedmaster. Phantom Black and Fusion White.
First one for my dealer but Triumph has pre-orders in the US for 28 already.
Expected delivery date is late February or early March

Going to be a long winter, but it gives me time to sell a few things and raise some capital.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670834 - 10/20/17 11:50 AM

Quote:

I pulled the trigger today and placed a deposit on the new 2018 Speedmaster. Phantom Black and Fusion White.
First one for my dealer but Triumph has pre-orders in the US for 28 already.
Expected delivery date is late February or early March

Going to be a long winter, but it gives be time to sell a few things and raise some capital.




Congrats! What does that mean for the current stable?

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Ryan7771]
      #670835 - 10/20/17 12:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I pulled the trigger today and placed a deposit on the new 2018 Speedmaster. Phantom Black and Fusion White.
First one for my dealer but Triumph has pre-orders in the US for 28 already.
Expected delivery date is late February or early March

Going to be a long winter, but it gives be time to sell a few things and raise some capital.




Congrats! What does that mean for the current stable?




Commander is going, darn I wish I could keep all my toys. Now where is that lottery ticket I just purchased


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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670842 - 10/20/17 04:00 PM

Congratulations Mike! That is the color I like the best. It reminds me of the '02 TBA black and silver paint scheme. Are you going to trick it out for touring?

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670844 - 10/20/17 04:12 PM

Quote:

Congratulations Mike! That is the color I like the best. It reminds me of the '02 TBA black and silver paint scheme. Are you going to trick it out for touring?




Thanks, I've got a few ideas in mind, so yeah I'll add some personal touches. Probably have to think outside the box a bit for touring luggage with this design.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670845 - 10/20/17 04:41 PM

Awesome Mike! Can't wait to see it.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Donny]
      #670846 - 10/20/17 04:59 PM

Good on ya Mike! I'm pretty sure there's one with my name on it too.I wish blue was an option.I may go with the black and just paint the tank.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670874 - 10/22/17 10:26 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Congratulations Mike! That is the color I like the best. It reminds me of the '02 TBA black and silver paint scheme. Are you going to trick it out for touring?




Thanks, I've got a few ideas in mind, so yeah I'll add some personal touches. Probably have to think outside the box a bit for touring luggage with this design.




I'm thinking the sissy bar and rack would work w my Iron Rider luggage. The Triumph windscreen for the new SM is pretty ugly though, IMO. The touring seat looks pretty cushy though. But I would probably not pre-order one. I'd want to at least sit on it first.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670877 - 10/22/17 03:53 PM

I agree Paul that windshield is horrendous. First thing I noticed. They have a seat option like the Commander, but in the picture I saw it looked a bit thin. What luggage are you referring to ? Got a link

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670878 - 10/22/17 06:27 PM

Quote:

I agree Paul that windshield is horrendous. First thing I noticed. They have a seat option like the Commander, but in the picture I saw it looked a bit thin. What luggage are you referring to ? Got a link




Here you go.But don't buy any. I have got an extra main bag and day bag you could have.

https://dowcopowersports.com/shopby/iron_rider/

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670894 - 10/23/17 04:38 AM



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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #670986 - 10/30/17 09:09 AM

I noticed that the wheelbase is 6 inches shorter than the older models. There is a pic on the UK site of a couple 2 up riding and the bike looks tiny. I'm 6 feet tall and one of the things I like about the older models is it is a full size motorcycle. When my bike is parked next to my buddies Softails and Dynas my 2006 Speedmaster looks the same size , it does not look small like the bobber does or like how a Sportster does.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: JD13]
      #670987 - 10/30/17 09:14 AM

I agree. I'm about 6'2" and I even looked a little big for my '02 TBA. So if this one is smaller, probably wouldn't work for me. Might have to get a Road Glide or Indian Buick Roadmaster.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: PES]
      #670992 - 10/30/17 02:09 PM

NOoOoooo Paul! Don't do it.You have the T-bird don't ya? If I like this Speedy but it looks small,I could put my America back to dual seat and set the new Speedy up as a solo. There is also a rumour that there MAYBE an America coming back too but it is Only a whisper.

https://motorbikewriter.com/triumph-unleashes-new-tigers/

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: findlay13]
      #670993 - 10/30/17 03:31 PM

The Speedmaster is small as are all of the modern Classic Twins. And if it's anything like the Bobber it will be snappy quick.
The New Speedmaster seat height is basically the same as the seat height on my 2003 America.
Wheel base is shorter, this is primarily due to rake.
Heck my 2010 Tbird 1700 wheelbase was an inch shorter than the 2003 Americas, just sayin.

So maybe just maybe the big ole bikes are starting to lose their appeal.
Heck even the GoldWing lost 90 lbs this year

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #671007 - 10/31/17 02:48 PM

The windshield on my America is a Memphis Fats and the entire setup was not originally designed for it. I'm guessing we will have lots of choices as time goes on and people find other alternatives for lots of things.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: mikemm03]
      #671014 - 11/01/17 05:49 AM

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So maybe just maybe the big ole bikes are starting to lose their appeal.
Heck even the GoldWing lost 90 lbs this year




Take it from someone used to riding motorcycles around 850-900 pounds: When you're moving you're not aware of the weight. But coming to a stop and starting out requires some concentration, skill and strength. With a passenger and a full load for traveling increases the complexity. Throw in any kind of uneven surface and it can become an adventure.

I'm not complaining but there must be a limit on how much weight is manageable. I think Honda was very smart to put the GW on a diet. I hope some other manufacturers wise up.

Recently I sat on a Motoguzzi MGX21. At 750 pounds dry, this thing was so top-heavy it took a lot of effort to lift off the sidestand. A couple of smaller guys tried to get it vertical and gave up!

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: Speedmaster05]
      #671017 - 11/01/17 03:02 PM

I never wanted to deal with a big heavy bike, bumping 900Lb.s on two wheels is more than I would want to deal with.

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Re: 2018 Speedmaster [Re: tinmantwo]
      #671039 - 11/03/17 09:50 AM

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