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Tfrenchy
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Pop at desceleration
      #517729 - 06/19/11 01:03 PM

hello all,

because I thought my exhausts (tappered ones) were not loud enough, i drilled some holes ...

Now it sounds good but lot of pop when decelerating.
My bike (America 2009 EFI) is already remapped with the TOR map.

Is there any tip to avoid that poping , please ?

Thanks for advices.

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Edited by Tfrenchy (06/19/11 01:07 PM)


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The_Dog33
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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: Tfrenchy]
      #517764 - 06/19/11 05:23 PM

Did you create any exhaust leaks when doing the drilling? That could do it. Afraid I'm not much help on the EFI bikes.

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Tfrenchy
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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: The_Dog33]
      #517827 - 06/20/11 02:52 AM

I just drilled the plate (disc) that is at the end of the exhaust. Just near the big tube inside. (I don't know how to explain)

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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: Tfrenchy]
      #517828 - 06/20/11 03:11 AM

Bonjour Tfrenchy.
I am English but live in Vienne. We sometimes visit La Rochelle so it would be good to meet up for a coffee sometime.
Gary.

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NIbiker
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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: Bugbear]
      #517835 - 06/20/11 04:41 AM

Bonjour Thierry.

I hope your diagram explains, I think you only removed A.
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foglefar
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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: Tfrenchy]
      #517842 - 06/20/11 06:09 AM

Bonjour mate.

All Our EFI Triumphs pop when decelerating ... IF the AI is still intact and the O2 sensors are still operating. You must disable them to stop the popping.

The pop usually occurs in the headers when the computer tells the AI to pump more O2 into the fuel mix on closed throttle to deliberately ignite unburnt fuel detected in the headers.

You have drilled a hole in your rear baffle and the popping sounds much louder and you're noticing them more. Drilling the baffle won't make it pop any more or less.

There are several threads on eliminating popping. Try searching for EFI and AI elimination and Popping.

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exodortch
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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: foglefar]
      #517851 - 06/20/11 08:44 AM

I have an 09 EFI as well and still have some popping after changing exhaust and having the richer EFI map downloaded.

+1 to Foglefar, the air injection and O2 sensors are causing the unburnt fuel to ignite. there are instructions downloading new EFI maps that will also disable the O2 sensors here.

http://www.bonnevilleamerica.com/forums/...part=1&vc=1

Air injection removal must be done mechanically. Also, there was some discussion a while back about European vs. north American triumphs as to the presence of a catalytic converter in the header pipe. Supposedly the euro bikes have one. might want to look into it before making too many changes.

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foglefar
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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: exodortch]
      #517938 - 06/20/11 08:22 PM

Quote:

Also, there was some discussion a while back about European vs. north American triumphs as to the presence of a catalytic converter in the header pipe. Supposedly the euro bikes have one. might want to look into it before making too many changes.




Very good point.

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Keith
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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: foglefar]
      #517966 - 06/20/11 11:06 PM

Quote:

All Our EFI Triumphs pop when decelerating ...



As do the carb Triumphs. Many of us carbie guys disconnected the TPS and THAT eliminated popping on decel. I doubt this bit of info helps with EFI owners but just thought I'd include it as part of this conversation.

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Re: Pop at desceleration [Re: Keith]
      #517971 - 06/20/11 11:25 PM

its a Triumph thing...i love it!

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